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theorypleeb 20-Oct-19 02:53 AM
Good evening
I got on this server just to reach out to you directly. I go by Theory and am a YouTuber. Enby sibling of Re-Vera, they/them. I'm really impressed with your work and would love to find out more about the kinds of stuff you're interested in doing. I've got some exciting plans for some praxis software, and will most likely raise money to do some fun software development work that will empower leftists to be better organized and effective.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 02:46 PM
heeey
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 02:47 PM
Hey - sorry for the slow response friend, just a bit busy trying to get back into things. I promise I'm not ignoring you, just definitely want to give your message a thorough reading and response.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 03:05 PM
Oh no worries! Sorry, I don't normally persist lol
No worries 😄 Just thought I'd remind in case you lost the notification.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 03:27 PM
Naww of course not I've wanted to get in touch since your brother mentioned with you pepohug Nice to meet you! Right now money is my personal biggest hurdle, wanting to make the site full time into a base that is something akin to wordpress where anyone can download it without relying on me, but it just isn't there, yet. But, certainly more praxis is needed and its coming. My interest was graphic design but I just landed into making the site base because my friend, Vaush, needed a site post-Twitch. And that just provided me with the opportunity to provide it to other 'bread'tubers as well since its lightweight, just needs more flexibility but we've come a long way towards that. My specialty is certainly still CSS and graphic design, despite learning NodeJS and PHP for the site.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:36 PM
Definitely willing to help any people I can, though
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:49 PM
well I've been brainstorming the site-build that I Need.
For years.
And my M.A. thesis was faced with problems of... accessibility.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:50 PM
How do you mean accessibility? As in the site admin, so control of the back-end, or UX?
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:50 PM
I need to be able to write a book-length blog that has video and audio along the way, quizzes or games for involvement, etc. The goal is to make it more accessible at both ends though. I need to be able to lay out different pathways for different comprehension levels. so that a 5th grader and a college level theorist can read through why capitalism is a fuck.
and from the other end, so that any 11 year old or 82 year old can use it.
(Set up their own using that gold-build)
Because I'm helping an 82 year old man and his grandson set up their own blogs/video channels...
and I'm helping a lot of other people. And the more I hekp other people, the less I want to.
I don't want to help anyone until I have a good build that will save us all time by stacking as many functions and pre-existing open-source software
and so I've been considering pausing with my channel for a while to focus on mapping out what i need, then launching a crowdfunding campaign and patreon just to bring int he money for this build. I want to fly some programmers to a flat and do this in however long it takes with food provided etc
So the web-build I have in mind goes like 8 layers deeper in complexity than what I've spelled out here, but the idea is easiest set-up and go, while in the background doing a ton of mirroring and integrating with other already existing platforms
Nobody I train on this will ever have to use Google Docs, or Facebook, or any other platform, even if they are technically using those as background processes. From within the app they've got one seamless experience, and it interacts with their FB for them
I've got on programmer friend who I trust and we've brainstormed a lot more of this
*one
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:56 PM
Ahh, I understand that feeling. If I understand correctly, the way I found easiest would be similar to a wordpress styled deploy where its sort of one click start and it spits you out to a CMS. Except, instead of a CMS it spits you out to whatever step you are on in whatever you want to accomplish. So, even though its not out yet, for WhiteLeaf it would be "You currently need to set up a PayPal API!" and then it has a question mark next to it that pops out a step by step how-to get that PayPal API and where to put it. Because, at the end of the day, you want the software to do 95% of what it can and the other 5% you just explain how to do.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:57 PM
exactly
Except I don't know coding yet. I've only been doing video for a year. Just learned to animate a month and a half ago...
Point being, I'm getting into it all, but I'm very very new to programming. My goal is to figure out what languages I'll NEED to understand and collaborate with others who know more than I do.
I'm more the user-interface / audience-interface side when it comes to knowing what I need (for my own content), and what others of different ages and abilities have required when I helped them.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:58 PM
It depends on what you're trying to accomplish and I don't fully understand, yet. Is it kind of a general purpose, catch all, for people who want to make a YT channel, or a blog, or set up a site?
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:58 PM
yes
a catchall to plug whatever you already have into
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:59 PM
So what would the website do? Just help you set it up or serve other functions as well?
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:59 PM
I'd love to explain by phone for a bit if you want to just call. Or we could video call. Or Discord voice call even
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 04:59 PM
Ye we can voice call 1 minute
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 04:59 PM
ok!
I'll sort some notes really quick. For people who like everything explained in a clear and linear way, I can be annoying.
My apologies if that occurs.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 05:00 PM
my voice call button is uh, wonky pepohmm - so call me whenever yo
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 05:01 PM
Started a call that lasted 126 minutes.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 07:09 PM
oye I gotchyer pronouns but what do you prefer to be. . .called? idk if that is the nicest way to phrased. like theorypleeb or? pepohmm (edited)
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 08:05 PM
theory, theorypleeb, dave, pleeb,
haha
thanks
I'd like to start by becoming one of your patrons and getting a basic build going for copypasta agitprop.
Before I tweet about what's going on with YouTube I have to set up a quick landing page with scheduled twitch streams for brainstorms.
Because that's where everyone is about to find out what I'm doing, so I want to set them up at my site from the beginning.
Do you go by White? or
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 08:07 PM
dank nervoSENPAI - yee just lemmie know the baseline ASAP and we can get at least an example pushed - White, Nervosa, Kenzie YEE
Unless you juss' want a supa simple landing page in which case nevermind PepoThink - unless you want me to make it in which case lemmie know HYPERS
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 08:11 PM
If you can make SOMETHING exist now then I'll up my pledge later once we're doing something more elaborate
right now it's just for twitch and discord
and twitter
basically the vaush build
the re-vera one
i'm not asking for anything they don't have
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 08:12 PM
you gotta domain PepoG
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 08:12 PM
not for copypasta but I'll purchase it the moment you tell me to
does it make a difference who I purchase through
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 08:13 PM
If you want yee and if you just want it to be a clone of re-vera/v.gg - naww, the DNS nameservers just point to ns1.linode.com - ns2.linode.com - ns3.linode.com - ns4.linode.com - ns5.linode.com and then you tell me the domain
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:01 PM
ok I should do this now and I want two domains to point to the same page
theorypleeb.com + copypastaagitprop.com
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:02 PM
Alright - did you just buy either one of them/point them already? because note the home page is just an aggregate
Like, its pretty bare - we can make a custom one, which is the point, but the starting whitele.af is pretty plainerino
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:07 PM
should i pay for privacy protection on godaddy
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:07 PM
that is up to you homie - imo, if you're a public figure on the internet, you're going to get doxxed. Its just gonna happen. But, ye.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:09 PM
I'll be pointing to ns1.linode.com - ns2.linode.com - ns3.linode.com - ns4.linode.com - ns5.linode.com
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:10 PM
which domain or both?
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:10 PM
Basically for the next 24 hours it would be nice to loop a Discord, Twitch, and soon YouTube into it. For the time being I'll be featuring Vimeo videos. I may end up doing more with Vimeo as time goes on.
Both
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:10 PM
kk
It also does not yet have the ability to fetch Vimeo videos but monkaS
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:11 PM
Hmmmm
Let'sx deal with that in a minute what matters is that I get the domains pointing the right way so I can make an important call next haha
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:12 PM
gotcha
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:13 PM
Are there more temporary fixes of using Vimeo that are less complicated
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:14 PM
idk how you mean
Do you think maybe poke around your brother's atm and see if you want to switch your domains over? PepoG
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:15 PM
If "fetching" is also storing or trying to keep people there longer, etc, if it's more complicated,
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:15 PM
Fetching is the feed you see of videos
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:15 PM
Ok
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:15 PM
It means learning how to honestly seek truth, and control against our own biases, and see both sides of issues.
wait okay to which thing pepohmm
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:17 PM
can I call
Started a call that lasted 70 minutes.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:18 PM
1m I gotta plug in my ish
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:18 PM
cool
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 09:34 PM
Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what's being worked on, who's working on what, and where something is in a process.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 09:44 PM
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 10:19 PM
Your PayPal email (the one someone would send you money) Your PayPal IPN Username Your Paypal IPN Password (not your paypal password) Your PayPal IPN signature Go here: https://developer.paypal.com/developer/applications Click on Live at the top, then click on Create App. Name it revera. Once created, you're done with that page, then you go here: https://www.paypal.com/businessmanage/account/accountAccess At the bottom, click on NVP/SOAP API integration (Classic) Manage API Credentials. Then click on Signature and you have your API Username, API Password, and Signature.
Transfer money online in seconds with PayPal money transfer. All you need is an email address.
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:21 PM
BIG BREAK between the two links
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:34 PM
also really soon i'll need the ability to click on those videos on the front page and have those open a new page on the site, where there's more related to that video, and then i can potentially send a person forward to three new pages depending on the options they choose after watching the video.
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 10:35 PM
yee that'll be for if we decide to start anew or nay PepoG
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:35 PM
ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 10:35 PM
also contact your friend famalam I do not want to cause aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany drama
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:35 PM
if we decide to fork it
oh no she wouldn't care
i just also want her in on what's going on
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 10:35 PM
just be sure yo peepoHmmCoffee - juss wanna make sure everyone is gucci
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:36 PM
much appreciated
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WhiteNervosa 21-Oct-19 10:36 PM
pepohug
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theorypleeb 21-Oct-19 10:36 PM
😄
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 01:17 AM
what is your patreon
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 01:18 AM
Become a patron of WhiteNervosa today: Read 2 posts by WhiteNervosa and get access to exclusive content and experiences on the world’s largest membership platform for artists and creators.
I would switch at least http://copypastaagitprop.com/ 's name server as soon as you can - usually they update within the hour, but sometimes they can take a day pepohmm
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 01:23 AM
ok awesome let me do that now
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 01:33 AM
lol I realized right after becoming a patron i should have just done it through payapl
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 01:34 AM
lol
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I still appreciate it homie pepohug
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 01:37 AM
When I switch from basic to sovereign we can make the switch then
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 01:38 AM
need the baseline first pepohmm
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 01:58 AM
My goal for the next two weeks is to come up with the base minimum goals
and to figure out where to plug these things ns1.linode.com - ns2.linode.com - ns3.linode.com - ns4.linode.com - ns5.linode.com
do I use them all in that chain or
is it like any one will do
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 02:00 AM
One by one all of'em yo
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 02:27 AM
Ok I haven't given up I just needed to find out about this other service I was paying for. Looks like I've freed up some money for you. Won't be for a few days though until it's reimbursed.
eat shit BlueHost
😋
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 02:28 AM
All gucci - once theorypleeb is switched over I can activate the SSL cert and youshould be good to go, don't forget the PayPal memerinos and I should have all of that switched over tomorrow afternoon peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 02:35 AM
oof ok i'll get it done now
are those numbers you're sending me the same thing as the nameserver
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 02:40 AM
ns1.whatever ? those are the nameservers 1 - 5 YEE
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 02:41 AM
ok
I feel like Dave Rubin whenever doing stuff like this
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 02:41 AM
dawg, you have no idea the pain of walking Vaush through this peeposhook
and he was the first person peeposhook
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 02:42 AM
I mainly asked because everyone was saying it's a single link, or two links, but there is a way I can add more than that
lmao
you're a fucking icon
nervoSENPAI 1
ok now we wait
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 02:53 AM
Both Theorypleeb.com and Copypastaagitprop.com should come through whenever it's all sorted out, unless they need me to verify something (they said to watch my email). For now, good night!
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 02:54 AM
gnight fam HYPERS
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 07:58 AM
theorypleeb wadn't swapped famalam - still using ns40.domaincontrol.com and ns39.domaincontrol.com
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 09:47 AM
hmmm ok I'll look into it now
btw I want to start unhooking from platform capitalists and going straight to paying you. one example, which we probably want to wait for sovereign build, is Spreaker. If you made them irrelevant for me, then I'd just pay you the money I'm currently paying them... and we'd get anyone else who wants to be on podcasts the same.
oh shoot copypastaagitprop redirects to theorypleeb.com
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 10:16 AM
wait I thought you wanted the sites to redirect to the same place? PepoThink - edit: Oh, its because copypastaagitprop is pointing to the server which points to theorypleeb - we can keep it on just copypasta if you just want to go that route Also, we could do that and certainly can store a backup, but Soundcloud seems to be the best place to store that Podcasts for accessibility. HTML5 has a built in audio player so that wouldn't even be two days work but remember you want to integrate the site with already existing platforms to use their benefits to your advantage while using the site as a fall back and aggregate. (edited)
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 10:32 AM
I mean don't get me wrong dawg, I could use the money, but fact is you don't want to give up what discoverability these platforms have. I don't think Spreaker has it, but its the reason on-site live streams are reserved for live CNN debates, you get much more traction from platforms that already have a base and then you put them into your ecosystem.
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 10:46 AM
truuuue
the reason I liked Spreaker was it made it easy to have my stream on every app: Google, Apple, Spotify, and like 8 others plus the ones who piggyback on those
Yeah, so, noted. I'll probably switch to SoundCloud then soon.
Unless that messed up my presence on spotify too much
btw YouTube got back to me. rejected appeal.
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 10:51 AM
Ah, yeah but people aren't going to discover you on those platforms, ye. They may use them because they prefer them, like I like Spotify, but you can import Podcasts fairly easily without the need to pay anybody. Every person who engages with your Soundcloud post is the same as YouTube, their followers see it in their feed. Oof, what the fuck? I'd keep trying with getting their Twitter's attention but, maybe your best bet would be to clear cookies, switch to Firefox, swap an IP, and hop back on. Because that is insane relative to the standard YouTube comment section affair.
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 11:49 AM
oooh ok
getting refunded by bluehost now
then setting up paypal
I'll keep the IP address for now because I want others to see when I livestream.
Don't need people saying this was too coincidental and blah blah
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:01 PM
ye thats gucci, I was fearing it would be cutting it too close and I'd be afraid of a poor "Hey look at this pitch" when it'd frankly be scuffed. I want it to look nice, not just for you, but especially if you show it to the world peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:12 PM
oooh
yeah I'm not making The Pitch for Sovereign Build today. Just sharing my general goals.
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:12 PM
naww ye I know, but its still like, the first a good lot would see it, ya know? First impressions and all that
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:13 PM
Like a "Hey, if you get involved with what I'm doing now through Copypasta Agitprop, then you'll eventually know how to do these things..."
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:13 PM
Yee peepoHappy
and then when I start helping, there'll be something to show and speak for itself rather then *Well, it can ___ * pepohmm
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:13 PM
Well don't look for part-time work rn
😉
lol I have 232 dollars just for you, but I'm going to first figure out that base minimum
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:15 PM
naww ik, I don't axe anyone for payment (I mean, I axe for money but not in liuo of site work) for the sites. They need a lot of flexibility still, and its getting there, but its unfair to ask anyone to subsidize it
Unless they're a law firm pepohmm
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:15 PM
I can triple your patreon in the next month and a half easy. Though I wonder what the best way of doing all of that is? What if they just want to pledge to me? Should I ask double and send you half?
lol yeah unless it's a law firm
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:16 PM
Absolutely any way is fine; because if we do end up doing a new foundation then it going to your patreon would make more sense
If they like Whiteleaf as is, then they can opt into that and maybe we expand it outward to support the features you see incorporerated
All depends on what you see the baseline peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:17 PM
I want to set up each of my tutees with the means to use their build to set up professionals. I want to make them Uber drivers for this build, meaning themselves, only instead of Uber, they're interviewing and setting up others, tutoring others, getting them up on their own
Network-Marketing style
ok that makes sense
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:17 PM
MLM without the scam, makes perfect sense fam.
Encouraging other's to just try making content is what will help praxis the most
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:18 PM
Ok that makes the most sense
MLM but it's our own means of production
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:18 PM
Yee, its their means of production and their stock. They are just being sold on their own abilities
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:18 PM
"Sign up 50 people and quit your day job" "work from home" "sounds too good to be true!"
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
Well, ain't tell nobody to quit their job pepohmm
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
lmao
I wouldn't tell anyone any of those three things every
*ever
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
lmao
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
my mom = big time MLM
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
oof. ye. they cut deep.
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:19 PM
me = ressentful
I need to do this paypal thing I swear to go
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:20 PM
ye but you got time you're keeping it on your site, when I wake up because I had to stay up way too fucking long for someone to give me a call back we can just swap it to your other domain, not theorypleeb but the. . . pasta one I have it in a notepad. It should be noted I have severe memory issues, hence, the trello pepohmm
That way you can set it up, we can expand it, tinker, decide if we can translate it into the baseline you want or if its just not there without having to worry about knocking any of your existing ish offline. Then, if it is there, simply change the domains. peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:22 PM
"At the bottom, click on NVP/SOAP API integration (Classic) Manage API Credentials. Then click on Signature and you have your API Username, API Password, and Signature."
that's my issue
nothing at bottom
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:23 PM
bidness Paypal account? pepohmm - you set up the app in step 1 from the linkerino?
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:24 PM
yes did step 1
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:24 PM
sorry - this meme is what you want to click
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:25 PM
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:25 PM
yee api access update then SOAP at the bottom
ˢᵒᵘⁿᵈˢ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ᵃ ᵖʳᶦˢᵒⁿ ʳᵃᵖᵉ ʲᵒᵏᵉ
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:25 PM
ok
"Request API signature if your shopping cart or solution provider has asked for an API username, password, and signature, or if you're developing a custom shopping cart. Request API certificate if your shopping cart or solution provider requires a file-based certificate."
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:26 PM
Signature not cert
then when you copy it over I save it you delete the message - its not like someone can steal money from you but its still just sensitive data
If I pass out its okay just to leave it until I say I got it, the only worry is if one of our accounts got hacked or whatever pepohmm - you'd have the issue of not knowing which transactions were legit and which weren't so we'd have to reset the info and its a headache
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:33 PM
uuuugh I'm confused
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:33 PM
bout wat
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:33 PM
sorry distractions you were clear
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:34 PM
oh, all gucci fam peepoHappy
just be sure not to send your actual PayPal password, the API password pepohmm
signature is cut off m8
unless it ends with v
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:36 PM
sorry lol
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:37 PM
all good pepohug - okay got it, delete messages, and then I just need the PayPal email someone would use if they were to send you money and then when I wake up plug it into the site and its live HYPERS
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:37 PM
theorypleeb@gmail.com
thank you ❤
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:38 PM
dope, of course
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:38 PM
when you say delete
do you mean remove
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WhiteNervosa 22-Oct-19 12:38 PM
the discord DM's
I'm just overly paranoid someone's accounts gonna get hacked so, why leave it imo
like just the DMs with the pics pepohmm - but, ye. its not like they could steal your money, it'd just be a headache to sort through. Gnight fam nervoHI - I. . . need sleep PepoComfy (edited)
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 12:49 PM
sleep well!
HMU when you're up. Also if you want my attention fast just call 208-500-1707. Temp number, not worried about doxxing anyway
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 06:22 PM
Good morning!
copypastaagitprop still redirects to theorypleeb
which both then say the site can't be reachec
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theorypleeb 22-Oct-19 10:01 PM
I just got email confirmation about the nameserver changing
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:21 PM
yooooo yo yo
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:21 PM
whizzup
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:21 PM
how's it going
I'm going to publish a video on twitter in a bit that plugs the .com
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:21 PM
oh I didn't what the fuck it never notified I got a DM peepoHands
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:21 PM
oooh
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:25 PM
Alright its gucci
astrisk, the only OAUTH currently working is reddit.
I still have to make OAUTH accounts for the rest.
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:26 PM
what is OAUTH
yay we have a landing page now at least for CPAP
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:27 PM
OAUTH is the site asking Twitter/Discord "this person gucci" and then they say "ye"
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:27 PM
memes and some art so far
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:27 PM
So, a sign in method that doesn't require us to hold any passwords so we never have to worry about being hacked and the database being dumped. It just holds usernames
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:27 PM
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
peeposhook
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
ooooh cool
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
what was I just sent
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
someone in the copygang was making memes today haha
i've been streaming for 11 hours
one person made those
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
oshit
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:28 PM
raaad
lol i'm still streaming
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:29 PM
well pepohmm - damn
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theorypleeb 23-Oct-19 10:42 PM
lol yep doing a guest appearance on noncompete to make a plug for the stream
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WhiteNervosa 23-Oct-19 10:43 PM
dope HYPERS tomorrow morning I'll finish the sites OAUTHs and then its good to launch with the temp under construction page.
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theorypleeb 24-Oct-19 02:00 AM
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theorypleeb 25-Oct-19 08:35 AM
Within the next day or so I'll be ready to pitch the baseline minimum
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WhiteNervosa 25-Oct-19 08:36 AM
Awesome! I'll get to work on trying to make your home page custom and look nice and iirc everything else on the site works peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 25-Oct-19 11:07 AM
sweet. I'll have a YT account to connect with it within the next hour hopefully and then upload some of my best vids
also... i can't save VODs yet because I need a couple more days of streaming before I can log these
the way people can look over them for a couple of weeks and make clips before they disappear forever... curious how you integrate that with the Vaush Pit
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WhiteNervosa 25-Oct-19 11:45 AM
How do you mean? We have seperate buttons for "VODS" which is simply a playlist he made on YouTube. The feed is his most recently uploaded but it hides his VODS because they are immediately unlisted once he stops streaming. We can change the feed to be a specific playlist but generally its best to just be newest channel uploads overall
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WhiteNervosa 25-Oct-19 12:32 PM
Its ready to swap to live whenever PepoComfy - the front page isn't ready yet but its tough for me to style because I don't have much more than a Twitter feed to pull from. Soon, there will be a YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter once your account has videos but idk if your VODs are saved https://www.theorypleeb.com/live (edited)
Creating Critical Theory Videos and Tutoring
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WhiteNervosa 25-Oct-19 01:26 PM
For right now the PayPal API is your brother's, again its no big deal to switch it will still go to your PayPal - we just want to switch it in case he closes his or his gets frozen or yadayada, Spoiler tags in case you accidentally open it on stream - can you double check these are the correct codes? Its difficult typing out when instead of copying and pasting because I don't know if its a 1 or an l or an I (L/i) so, ye.
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theorypleeb 25-Oct-19 03:17 PM
I have a safe screen now
"safe
"safe"
i'm using my laptop separate for messaging
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theorypleeb 25-Oct-19 07:19 PM
hey hey
so I'm curious
you say you've got PR skills
oh snap and I forgot to check that paypal info one sec
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theorypleeb 25-Oct-19 09:21 PM
I received a donation... I wonder if that came from the website
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 04:28 AM
sorry I've gone back to double check paypal a couple times and got distracted/lost each time.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 04:36 AM
finally got it
that checks out
comparing those IS hard lol
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 07:33 AM
fuckin right? pepohmm oh the PR skills is totally a joke, I mean I worked in marketing but as a graphic designer, I used to be friends with Destiny, Mitta Mouton, BadBunny, Harkdan, Devin, and in one day I chose not to abandon Vaush and all of those bridges got burnt pepohmm - now supposedly BB's was for some other shit and that seems to be accurate and I don't think she's lying
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 07:54 AM
The donation would've shown up in your chat if it did - so it probably came through SLABS but I'm not sure
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:36 AM
Honestly it's your loyalty Vaush that makes me safe trusting you with this build.
Because I fundamentally disagree with his mode sometimes, but I'd fight to keep him on the internet, and I'd be happy to see him at Thanksgiving lol
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 10:40 AM
Well, plus it killed my Twitch career. So, you know I hold my principles and friendships closer than I do anything else. peepoHappy Regardless of what happens with donations on the site either you or your brother would get them, although it doesn't appear any have gone through the site (the history you see is from your brother's build, none of that was said in your chat). My PayPal info isn't in the API so if it ended up in my PayPal some wires have crossed horribly pepohmm
Plus doing that for, any amount of money, would instantly kill the idea of the site which is why I never want to do anything that automatically takes money. You should be able to see 100% of it and then even if a contract was later made to get 10%, you still see 100% of it and then pay post-transaction rather than a precut taken by something like Patreon ʷʰᶦᶜʰ ᴵ ᵃᵐ ᵃᵍᵃᶦⁿˢᵗ ᵇᵉᶜᵃᵘˢᵉ ˢᵒᵐᵉ ᶜʳᵉᵃᵗᵒʳˢ ⁿᵉᵉᵈ ᵗʰᵉ ᵐᵒⁿᵉʸ ᵃˢ ᵐᵘᶜʰ ᵃˢ ᴵ (edited)
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:50 AM
wow
you remind me a lot of my friend Astrid that way.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 10:52 AM
I mean, in theory I think you see this becoming something as much as I, and then why ever risk taking a portion of money that would be temporary and be a terrible person over just making a better product that people want to support? pepohmm They sound like a gucci person, I'd like to meetem sometime peepoHappy
I've made mistakes but never stolen shit monkaHmm
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:53 AM
I was more of an SJW leftist when I re-met Astrid, and her openness to maintaining problematic adjacents (she knows... all the baddies of the alt-center and further right) was something I felt super squeamish about... but she's like, "I know my values. I know what I'm good for." And I've learned a lot from her about friendship, nonviolence, and unconditional love.
(Especially as I lost friends and gained enemies at a couple of definitive points, and all my Tumblr SJW friends distanced themselves hard and never even tried to find out what was going on, people like Astrid were just there the whole time)
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 10:55 AM
Yee unconditional love is super important to me peepoHappy - so they do sound like my kinda person. Friends help you move, family helps you move bodies pepohug
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:55 AM
That's the part that fucks me up, the lefties who just /hard/ pivot to distancing.
I don't get the "move bodies" part
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 10:56 AM
If you've fucked up or in that crazy example, killed someone and gotta move the body up out where you killed'em
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:56 AM
ooooooh
lol
I've had a few close friends tell me they'd help me with that if need be
it's oddly comforting
You might like my Distracted Friends series
!!
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 10:58 AM
Sounds like it, because fuck ye, everyone needs that circle close enough where, no matter what, you can depend on'em. I was very lucky and fortunate to gravitate towards people who always gave me that in life and I'm lucky to have grown that mentality. HYPERS
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 10:59 AM
so when Angie Speaks was getting canceled as a "rape apologist" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cNl5AESe5I
The "Vampire Castle" is a term coined by Mark Fisher to describe 'call out culture.' This is a trailer for our channel, which will be addressing the question...
for associating with Coffin, who was a rape apologist for associating with LB, there was a lot of talk about how to prevent these kinds of things from happening... how can creators protect themselves from harassment and bad faith actors while still taking people's concerns into due consideration, etc
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:01 AM
Damn.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:01 AM
There were a few excited and long brainstorm livestreams.
Then a Discord server to make protocol.
Breadtubers could sign these and set them up as a reference...
but then a handful of the people in there... really didn't like the task-oriented-driven nature of the leader (autistic... I wonder if there's any coincidence)
So we had a driven autistic person making it all happen, and then a contingency of the leftists there, specifically the more liberal ones, were trying to frame the whole thing as though anyone who comes forward with any accusation whatsoever should be called the victim.
So there was an inner tension over this, because the leader wanted to just put it to vote. In anonymity everyone thought it was better to call them potential or alleged victims, but then the loud ones thought this capitulates too much to rape culture.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:06 AM
Yeah, I think its just the ability to call someone a victim without convicting the accused. Its difficult but a person can do both.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:06 AM
They kept saying the leader wouldn't listen. She said, "Well, you can either keep having me do everything and I'll keep just putting it all to vote... orrrr I'll ask you all to vote someone else into this position" because like, she was doing everything.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:06 AM
Sounds like a fucking nightmare
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:06 AM
So basically the protocol fell apart in slow agonizing motion.
Now, I have at least one online "victim," my ex who contributed to a slanderous thread somewhere. I don't really hold it against them, we both made each other way more ill than we ever were apart... they've apparently grown since then and even retracted their post, but obviously there's still people stirred up by it and a few of their friends insist on passing around lies like they're true (and thankfully at least one of them is provably false, so)
So the reason I asked about your ironic PRness is because however I build the website needs to have some form of protocol.
Not the protocol developed by that team...
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:10 AM
Ah, I mean PR I understand but its a difficult topic to discuss and I don't think anyone leftie would like it pepohmm
because it frankly comes to careful presentation and exploitation of how a topic disseminates
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:12 AM
because those were pretty good, lots of a great resources, but nothing to help a creator. They were all to help the victim find help. That's great, and I'd even be willing to set aside a part of my regular (future) budget for therapy services for anyone who even feels offended even, much less if someone was a survivor of trauma and had associated that with me. But I can't be talking to everyone all the time just because they have problems and so I've obviously been brainstorming for the last year.
Yeah...
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:12 AM
I mean PR is different from a close friend to talk to about a fucked up situation. PR is cold and calculated.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:13 AM
Well when they put out the thread against me I only spoke with people I trusted in private about it.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:13 AM
Like, Vaush being my friend it was much more difficult to discuss PR than it was with BadBunny, who I like, but isn't that close where I can't be cold and direct with what she should do about something.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:15 AM
And finally when it wouldn't go away after a few months I put out a video that directly spoke to AN element of my past (my criminal record) that IS true, while not acknowledging the bad faith actors, or my ex who was using my past to construct a narrative about me. It was called "To own up and let go" and was about my stat. rape sex offense from 13 years ago, when I'd just run away from home. It's something I've had to live under, did therapy and time/probation for (wouldn't have had to if I could have afforded a lawyer obviously because I'm white) and definitely set me back 5 years in a lot of ways
It got a lot of support actually.
Surprisingly.
Like one person was like "I don't think it's ok that you're taking up space online"
and then they got dog piled by people who wrote walls of text.
but OBVIOUSLY there are some pretty trigger-happy cancel vultures who like to hang out and talk, and over time different ones who hate me will get to talking with one another.
So I always feel like that's "INCOMING"
and I HATE IT
NOT BECAUSE I can't own my own story or am afraid of how people will use it against me, which is how I lived my whole 20s
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:17 AM
Yeah, its tough, and that is good that at the end of it you got support. My experience again comes from a marketing firm so, a business isn't personal and it isn't facing personal accusations, but these are public figures so it gets emotional quick but sadly, its the same pipeline. People see the same information, come to the same decisions, and you have to treat it like any other brand.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:17 AM
but because it means that only dirtbags like me.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:18 AM
The biggest thing about drama and shit you've ever done in the past is that you need to remember, no matter how legit a critique is, it does not matter and will be used against you. The person using it does not even believe it. Their reasoning is that they dislike you and do not think their reasoning for disliking you is enough to convince others, so they will spread critiques that they think do convince others.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:19 AM
"Move at the speed of trust" (Mexie) is really slow for the Canadian breadtubers like Thought Slime, or the others who associated with me all the time in comment sections until that video... that video where they suddenly got real quiet but never said a thing.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:19 AM
The biggest thing you can do to help PR is lockdown.
Sadly, they were looking out for themselves, which sometimes you must.
Brand and not interpersonal, wise.
When it comes to PR, the only information propagation you can depend on is yourself.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:20 AM
"dislike you and do not think their reasoning for disliking you is enough to convince others, so they will spread critiques that they think do convince others." this is what gets me the most. which is why I've been teaching that individuals whoa re in the public are not individuals, but signifiers of unique relationships of desire.
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:20 AM
YEE
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:21 AM
See, I've been saying that. If your whole schtick is holding space for super traumatized people, then don't fucking bring me on
lol
BUT
how do I disclose enough up front
Like, I've had "the conversation" about this now with you, and about 12 other breadtubers, most of whom stayed involved.
But I can't keep doing that
I don't trust them either lol
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:22 AM
They should know any public figure is a controversial figure, its inherent. There is no public figure that does not have baggage.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:22 AM
It's not like I know these people, they just want to work with me
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:22 AM
So that one is on them
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:23 AM
but my baggage is like... written in stone. my baggage involves actual legal trail. it's why I started identifying as FAILSCUM, residue, and a deplorable, on my Twitter.
OK
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:23 AM
Every public figures is homie, legal or not, this is the internet and everything is permanent.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:24 AM
cool for now, I need to prepare for the stream today. I just wanted to put that on your radar. "Lockdown" is the idea I already had. I know Vaush has a drama channel I've never been in, but I need that
and I should do a self crit day every year, which is only open to subscribers and guests, building up over the years responding to things people have brought up (but which I worked through in therapy/PR beforehand)
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:25 AM
Yee everyone needs an outlet, just gotta remember for your drama it has to be handled in a very certain way if you want to approach it in the way where you care about what information gets where. Personally, I wouldn't, I would maybe do a viewer call in type of thing where people can of course critique you.
Framing it as a critique day is . . .inviting to the wrong people.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:25 AM
I meant that part too
"You know where we at" would be the idea. So if anyone wants to pile on, welcome
but then, like how Destiny has painstakingly gone over things recently,
I work through it, catalogue, put on lockdown, require people to work through it sequentially... anyone who hasn't done the due diligence can fuck off
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:27 AM
Viewer Call in day. I mean he chose to do that, as he said in his live stream, if he hadn't said a word about the drama the Mixer news would have superceded this.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:27 AM
If you haven't earned the drama badge don't talk to me about my drama
So IDK about Viewer Call day, or Mixer
btw want to just explain real fast by voice
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:28 AM
okay lemmie plug in my shit pepohmm
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:28 AM
lol
your pepeing is cute
never thought i'd say that to anyone
i've always hated pepe
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:28 AM
thanks nervoSENPAI - yee some people really hate it
Started a call that lasted 40 minutes.
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 11:28 AM
i bet
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 11:35 AM
notit (edited)
My confrontation with Destiny on his use of the N word in private. ►Watch live at http://www.twitch.tv/trihex ►Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/trih...
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 12:04 PM
Don't forget you're still unmuted in your strim PepoComfy
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 12:05 PM
lol you rule
thansk
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 12:05 PM
yee pepohug
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theorypleeb 26-Oct-19 12:05 PM
"Private" discord calls from now on: Only via phone or laptop, so they don't get mixed with PC
YEE 1
Gotta run!
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WhiteNervosa 26-Oct-19 01:20 PM
For later, obviously: We talked about on site back ups of VODS before and I think I told you what I told vaush, its really fucking expensive. I do have a very out-dated contract still going with my host, so in theory we could do it for content that is pre-recorded and automatically back everything up from site's YouTube/Twitch VODS. For Live Streaming on the site we'd still have bandwidth concerns but I think its not the most pressing since you want to stream on platforms for discoverability, anyway.
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theorypleeb 27-Oct-19 03:28 AM
hmmm
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WhiteNervosa 27-Oct-19 03:29 AM
I mean, just as a hey its possible, probably not gonna pan out but if everything falls into place its possible peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 27-Oct-19 03:30 AM
I don't think I want to backup VOD length videos, unless that was for the ULTIMATE sovereign build, like, if we did a campaign and got funding and all that. Because the idea of marking places on all the videos just as you go... being able to have the chat at the time + any hashtags you add count as bookmarks that could toggle those sections later while editing... that would be pure gold.
I could have everything on my own server.
When it comes to my own content, I mean. Backed up on three
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WhiteNervosa 27-Oct-19 03:32 AM
ye that is, that is a whole different beast my guy MonkaS - not even YouTube does that, the way Tiwtch does is literally just marking the time stamp for you.
So we could easily do the same as Twitch but pre-segmenting is, a lot monkaHmm
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theorypleeb 27-Oct-19 03:34 AM
that's what I meant
I didn't mean pre-segmenting
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WhiteNervosa 27-Oct-19 03:34 AM
oh I mean just marking a time stamp for you is ezpz
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theorypleeb 27-Oct-19 03:35 AM
i better go to bed
good night!
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WhiteNervosa 27-Oct-19 03:35 AM
gnight PepoComfy
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theorypleeb 27-Oct-19 11:44 AM
one thing that will be pretty immediate is I'd like the "Donate" button to take a person to a screen where they see options: Cash App, Google Pay, Venmo, Paypal, and then Patreon.
different people use different apps and from my experience so far people who are somewhat eager to help with a meal change their mind if it requires another app
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 01:21 AM
ye by default its straight paypal, which of course you can use a card on, but ye we can make a custom one with all of them pretty easy
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 03:46 AM
I'd need to know what links you want those to go to. pepohmm
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 01:09 PM
"Most days Theory only eats oatmeal. If you want to purchase them a hot meal, thank you. Venmo: @theorypleeb PayPal: paypal.me/theorypleeb Patreon: www.patreon.com/theorypleeb Cash: cash.app/$theorypleeb "
that's just a blurb from before. no need to keep it the same
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 01:09 PM
naww we'll make them buttons PepoHMMM
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 01:09 PM
(I'm getting that set up to post every hour or so while twitching)
sweet
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 01:14 PM
how the . . .how do I make a venmo link
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 01:14 PM
lemme get it
www.venmo.com/Theorypleeb
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 01:16 PM
ty
Creating Critical Theory Videos and Tutoring
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 02:40 PM
good news good news
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 02:40 PM
wat
I could use some good news peepoHands
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 02:41 PM
damn that's fucking sick
good work
those buttons are sexy
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 02:41 PM
HYPERS
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 02:41 PM
can we voice call
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 02:41 PM
ye 2s gotta plug mic
Started a call that lasted 137 minutes.
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 02:48 PM
Rocky Horror Show | After Show Feature: Broadway Bits, feat. Ann
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 03:02 PM
Theory Pleeb was banned by YouTube without any warnings or any specific explanations beyond "TOS Violations” ( https://bit.ly/2Bz5B9Q ) Now we're launching a...
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 04:56 PM
I've been debating myself on when I should tell you, because I don't to make you feel pressured and arrive at your own conclusion, but if its still up in the air closer to the new year then it would be worse - but TLDR after Christmas I cannot keep working on the site, so it would be passed off to someone I love and trust and they would maintain it, make sure everything works, but the site won't be updated unless someone else takes it on. So, pls don't feel pressured by time, just for me, I can't afford bills and the new year is where I have to part. You'd still have someone gucci to make sure things work until someone new was found pepohug
Well, I can't keep working on the site unless it pays bills is how I mean. And, I don't expect it to, it doesn't seem on that trajectory. Iz not right for me to ask any one person to pay for the site, like I was did a couple times for Vaush. So, there'll just be a stop gap and delay between me and whoever else was found to expand upon it (edited)
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:00 PM
I think the stars have really aligned right now
metaphorically speaking
that you and I both just moved and need part time work
and that there are several ways I can bring in more money.
Just putting that out there
so if we grind hard for the next couple weeks... it could hopefully set you up to not have to work elsewhere
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:01 PM
I mean its not a rush just a month, but ye. I'm just telling you my timeline and I do not want you to feel pressured in any way by that pepohmm
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:01 PM
my life is pressure
and I perform great under it
haha
btw i remembered the question
it's about VODs
I have 50 hours of #content now
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:02 PM
I'd love to, full time working on the site is what I love nervoSENPAI - but ye. What abouttem pepohmm
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:02 PM
from streaming for the last few weeks.
*days
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:02 PM
Question being if we can gnab those? PepoThink
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:02 PM
It seems like Vaush just adds all that shit to YT automatically?
as unlisted
then adds edited ones
Is there an ideally strategic way of doing this
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:02 PM
Well he streams to YouTube, YouTube does it automatically post-stream
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:03 PM
ooooooh riiiiiight
forgot about that
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:03 PM
Ideal way being the way he is doing it and most Twitch memers, you have the VODS but editted content is more accessible
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:03 PM
I have the 50 hours of content already downloaded (they weren't being addded as VODS to Twitch until yesterday, now there is a single 9 hour vod lol)
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:04 PM
peeposhook
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:04 PM
lol
so
so the VODS... why
some people want to watch the whole thing?
and that's good even if it's unlisted?
and btw how much do you need per month to not have to quit
you said a living wage but was that 40 hours per week
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:05 PM
Yee, because he has it all in a playlist and Twitch has it in a seperate panel. Its not that people want to watch all of it, its why you get time stamps, but people want to watch it now and not wait
I mean its as it sounds dawg I just gotta live, hours ain't matter, when I'm awake I'm working pepohmm - but, its looking like $1,500 FeelsBadMan - Twitch kinda. . .kinda just died for me. So, ye. My focus would shift, obviously, on the build you want to make and its feature set, but still providing features for the other sites, too. Same way Vaush gets a feature they all do.
but I ain't trying to sell you, so, keep that in mind. That certainly someone else can do it, so if its unreasonable, izok PepoComfy
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:09 PM
cool
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:09 PM
I just feeeeeeel like I sound like I'm trying to sell you, but I think its just because the site is very similar to how you see it. Something a boomer can one click and do a lot of shit pepohmm - juss different features. So ye, keep me posted peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:14 PM
idc if you were trying to sell me. we need our means of subsistence
to survive lol
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WhiteNervosa 28-Oct-19 05:34 PM
yee but I want you to arrive at that conclusion because you'd feel I'd be a good apart of team, not because "oshit well now I gotta pick or not and now I'm invested" so 'tis why I felt now rather than risking waiting until Christmas and being like "oh, well, uh, I can't." But, glad you aren't taking it that way HYPERS
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theorypleeb 28-Oct-19 05:42 PM
cool ty
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theorypleeb 30-Oct-19 10:41 AM
When I checked last night the YT videos were not showing up yet.
So I'm curious how we get them up asap? I may have fucked up with the YT account connected. Gotta double check
I'm an affiliate now though so I want to start directing traffic to the site and building it out
And I think most important is that instead of just the most recent videos showing up, instead I want two rows of videos, and these rows get populated by playlists. So I will have a classic essay salvage playlist, and another playlist for #freethepleeb
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WhiteNervosa 31-Oct-19 10:21 AM
I'll double check what is wrong when I get a chance - they should be showing up fine but somewhere there is a break in the automated cache looking for your videos. We can have another option for "YouTube Playlist" or w/e for a certain playlist you want to show to accomplish the second row
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theorypleeb 31-Oct-19 11:52 AM
🤜🤛
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WhiteNervosa 31-Oct-19 07:14 PM
Fixed the playlist bug - your vids now show up; The second playlist will be added to the to-do (edited)
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theorypleeb 31-Oct-19 11:10 PM
Thank you!
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theorypleeb 03-Nov-19 11:16 AM
How much leeway do I have moving things around. Like if the tweets should be shown above the videos, etc.
And the second playlist is important but rn probably most important is getting started with the blog element so I can set the intro video and then options for the next page a person sees depending on their answers
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 12:08 AM
I think I may have found a person to help with the website. Would you have any time to talk tomorrow? On a discord call?
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 09:48 AM
Absolutely, tomorrow before 6PM PSTish I have that DnD thing with Vaush
Sorry just been offline for the weekend PepoComfy
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 11:04 AM
Any time today work??
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 11:20 AM
ye I'll be gucci post 3PM CST
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 11:20 AM
Tight
I'll let Jeremy know!
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 01:48 PM
Your brother axed about blogging and I told him wordpress but probably to hodl because it seems like we're greenlit? Meaning, we're good to go for taking this build, adding features onto it such as Wordpress, Multipost (Posting to Twitter, Facebook, YouTube Posts, etc.), and this paying 'muh rent which is the $1500 we talked about before pepohmm So just waiting on the greenlight to steer the ship ComfyWowee (edited)
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:34 PM
I think I'm misinterpreting the question but are you saying you're under the impression I greenlit the sovereign build and with that you would get paid a living wage
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:36 PM
Its more of a question and I'm left with that impression, I guess (edited)
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:37 PM
Oooh ok
Ughhhhhh
No
So
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:37 PM
Gotcha, all gucci pepohug
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:37 PM
The issue is how do we get you paid your value
How do we get you that 1500
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:38 PM
Well, a split between Patreon, whatever the people using the site can contribute, and then the rest would be me axing you. I know your brother said he had a lot of money to "throw around" but he hasn't seemed to keen on the site and I haven't had the time to talk to him as to why, if I had to guess he doesn't know its ready
Its not about value or a living wage, I hate those terms, I just need to pay bills.
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:40 PM
So I've been under the (false) impression (I just scrolled up to double check) that you were planning to quit with the web development unless I can find a way within the next month or so to pay you what you deserve. The issue is I'm not sure we could secure that kind of revenue that fast. A lot of the next few months sounds like barely scraping by working part time elsewhere before getting to a point where a proof of concept can be used to kickstart some crowdfunding that would bring you, myself, and maybe another person the patrons + donations + customers that would make our livelihoods possible
Sorry maybe those atent the best words but I also need to survive so, I definitely get it. He also doesnt have the money he says he has. I learned that the hard way. What he means is he could throw a couple hundred bucks at something. Monthly though? His wife would freak out. She is the logistics
And... she basically just sees this as a hobby
But if we could get a business plan together in the next two weeks, and I found an LLC, and then you get paid in ratio to what we've got... where your patreon counts towards that goal... then we might get my brother +Vaush + that lawyer... and a few others looped in
it really could be enough
I've been obsessively thinking about it. I can sacrifice and scrape by more than others now because I have this tiny house. Others don't have that though. So I'm trying to think through a way to bring in more money than I'm even planning on making in the next year
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:45 PM
Oh, no that is the correct impression, in the sense I don't have a choice. I've already made the rounds three months now asking people for cash to get by and I can't keep doing that, the site isn't on the trajectory to be self-sufficient by the New Year so I thought that was a fair point to pass it along. Yeah, I mean every little bit matters, sincerely I don't want to get paid 'what I deserve' or a living wage or yadayada, I'm running an 8 year old computer, if it gets turned off I gotta let it sit unplugged for 30m before it'll turn back on, it gets the job done, its all I need. I just need to pay rent. Missouri is cheap, and that covers everything, and I'm happy and healthy. I can't deal with the rounds though, mentally, of asking everyone near the end of the month for cash. It kills me. So, none of that to be a sob story, I know it sounds like one, but I'll be okay. Its just whether I'm apart of the team or someone else takes the torch and I work another job and maybe down the road I can come back on board when its more stable.
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:46 PM
That doesnt sound like a sob story to me no worries
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:46 PM
So again I ain't need a ratio, just bills. The sales pitch is there, if anyone has seen Destiny.gg and wants their own, this is it. Rid the Patreon pay split? Your own platform? Etc. Of course, that doesn't include the extra stuff but the extra stuff isn't there, yet.
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 02:47 PM
But I know what you mean. It drains you out so fast. And you feel like you're using up a limited patience / reserve of others that puts a strain on it.. a strain under pressure ugh
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 02:47 PM
Yeeeeeeeeah peepoSad
You wanna rush friends but you can't because you're asking them for money but at the same time . . .bills. Its tough. Reason I was gone for the weekend is because my internet was shut off and I was running off a hotspot oof
So ye, that is just where I am, if the torch has to be passed that is okay and I know a person who can hold it temporarily and pass it to whomever wants it if they want to branch out etc. Its a sob story in the sense of if I continue this but I'll survive, I'm lucky, I have that opportunity to "just get a job 4head "
I'm not gonna be homeless, I'm not gonna go hungry, I'm again very fortunate. This project will grow into something much larger, whether I'm there from the beginning or rejoin later isn't a huge deal. Its a want I have, but thats it, it'll still keep going and growing. PepoComfy
ANYWHO, that long rabble was just if we started steering the ship now (more features for MVP) or waited (more stable build for those already using it) - but your friend Jeremy? pepohmm (edited)
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 03:24 PM
brb!
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 03:24 PM
kk
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 03:30 PM
let's do the call in like 10 minutes if that's ok
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 03:30 PM
yee
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 03:55 PM
yeah ok cool setting it up on the copypastaagitprop server
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 03:55 PM
I need an invite pepohmm
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 04:00 PM
Ok THE channel is called "sb" but I just need to figure out how to give you the "Sovereign build" role
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 04:03 PM
should just be able to right click my name and roles and then check that role pepohmm
or just make like a drag me in channel that I can join and you drag me in
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 04:03 PM
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 04:04 PM
naww I mean drag me in the Voice Channel
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 04:04 PM
it had the invite button
oh ok
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 04:04 PM
oh, it has to be on the server for the role (edited)
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 07:06 PM
Heyhey
What are your computer specs just curious
I could probably get you something better "for free."
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 07:08 PM
GTX 960, i7 uhhhh 4770k? monkaHmm
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 07:11 PM
So what do you think of Jeremy
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 08:24 PM
He seems like a dank duder, I think we'll work together well but of course that is after just a brief conversation ComfyWowee
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 08:26 PM
Cool cool
I saw you
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 08:26 PM
sorry for slow responses DnD with Vaush
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 08:26 PM
For the first time lol
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 08:26 PM
oof I look terrible fam
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 08:27 PM
Yeah I was in the chat for a little
NO
You don't lol
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 08:27 PM
there is a YouTube video where Ilook my best but fuck I can't remember which
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 08:29 PM
Oh you mean all of them because you're dope af and also a stylish hacker dope brain
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WhiteNervosa 04-Nov-19 08:30 PM
lmao thanks, I wish fam, but I 'ppreciate it pepohug
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theorypleeb 04-Nov-19 08:30 PM
If my compliments sound like a worse version of something Jason from The Good Place would say then... fair enougj
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WhiteNervosa 05-Nov-19 10:10 AM
Here's an example of what I see the website being, this never panned out for various reasons but the simplicity of literal drag and drop and you're done peepoHappy https://streamable.com/a88h2 For things like the home page, navbar, etc. Because another selling point of the website that got lost in the huge update were the 'short links.' Which, as they sound, just redirect from your site. TLDR yoursite.com/twitter will always go to your Twitter, no need to go back and edit every YouTube video discription etc. e.g. http://vaush.gg/twitter (edited)
The latest Tweets from Vaush (@VaushV). Rising star of the YouTube's Dirtbag Left & undisputed King of Breadtube. I'll debate you on your childhood. https://t.co/thKmfs5m5T. America
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:01 PM
yooo
how art thou
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:02 PM
okay hbu
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:04 PM
gooood
i've been thinking about this one idea
this web build
it would be so epic
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:06 PM
whats the idea? I've been recoding the site in React to make it that drag and drop anywhere shit and, its a lot but, progress 😓
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:06 PM
niiiiiiiiice
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:21 PM
oh the idea thing was a joke
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:21 PM
oh
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:21 PM
i mean, we've already talked about it a lot but I was saying that "as if"
i realized after sending that it's a weird form of humor and maybe not even funny
but anyway
I'm thinking we should probably talk to Jeremy and Revera soon, and set up some goals! People are getting stoked about this build idea.
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:23 PM
ye I'm gucci just gotta @ me or DM me
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:32 PM
Jeremy said you haven't sent the PW
so I guess he hasn't been able to look at anything
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:34 PM
ohshit, I forgot that is the deadman switch version pepohmm - I gotta repackage everything and send it over. Otherwise its just similar to destiny.gg's source in the sense of PHP to Laravel - but the front end is being recoded to be all variables that you can move around and whatever.
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:45 PM
aaah
oh no!
dope
will you let him know
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WhiteNervosa 07-Nov-19 11:47 PM
ye I'll do that
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theorypleeb 07-Nov-19 11:47 PM
tight!
I want to get to work really soon. I just had an agonizing 9 hour stream yesterday and I want to edit it JUST for my website.
If people want my opinion on cancel culture they need to do the work to meet me halfway
lol
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theorypleeb 08-Nov-19 08:32 PM
if you wanna hop in with Jeremy and I we're talking for a minute about tomorrow! plans stuff
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theorypleeb 08-Nov-19 08:40 PM
lol oh wait shit you still haven't contacted him. WHITE!
ummm we are no further along than we were last week because you haven't sent it to him yet. is everything ok or do we need to move on immediately
(I mean, I get that you're making it all dynamic and that's clearly "further along" but Jeremy needs access so we can get his wheel house spinning before we can REALLY talk about what's going on)
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:16 AM
Why didn't you ever send him the D.GG code? pepohmm - ours is just more complicated inwards but that is what will be changed on the foundational level. I forgot to tell him I have to re-download and re-pack everything
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:20 AM
wait you sent me a code?
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:21 AM
the d.gg code is public PepoThink - but I put it off because its literally 15 different folders with 15 different projects that are combined when a site is working, they aren't all the same language. I wasn't under the understanding he was waiting to start work but he was just giving it an overview to learn about it before we have a road map.
so mb if he was waiting to start working, if that is the case I'll shift gears but that isn't my understanding
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:27 AM
He can't begin working until we know what we're doing. We can't know what we're doing until he's on the same page. That was basically the only to-do list item we established last week.
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:27 AM
I thought we were waiting for a road map, still monkaHmm
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:27 AM
so this isn't about him needing to begin working immediately, it's just...
no the road map can't be built until i can talk to him AFTER he has looked over the build
he has no idea what we're working with
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:28 AM
okay pepohmm - but note that the deadman switch meme took hours to get together so I'll repack another one
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:29 AM
I said I'd have the road map ready Thursday or Friday, but that was after you said you'd share the back end (or whatever, I'm messing up my terms here)
I don't know what the deadman switch meme is, and I don't know what D.GG code is so
So probably a big part of the problem is that I'm trying to play middle person here
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:30 AM
He quoted you a month - D.GG source code https://github.com/destinygg/website - and the dead man switch is the version he was sent that has a password from another person that if I get hit by a bus they send out the password to people.
Destiny.gg. Contribute to destinygg/website development by creating an account on GitHub.
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:31 AM
who is "he"
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:31 AM
Jeremy
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:31 AM
hold on can i call
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:31 AM
I'm juss waking up so uh pepohmm
1m
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:31 AM
sorry no rush
hell
actually
why don't you just take your time and then join me on twitch
jeremy will also join at 12pm PST
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 11:32 AM
Started a call that lasted 49 minutes.
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 11:32 AM
so you could join then or earlier or later
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 01:54 PM
yoyoyo will you be ready soon
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 01:55 PM
ye. any topic specifically or just freeflow?
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theorypleeb 09-Nov-19 02:12 PM
freeflow
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WhiteNervosa 09-Nov-19 02:13 PM
kk
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theorypleeb 11-Nov-19 02:54 PM
yoyoyo
how are you
you said hashtagging during videos would be easy
just curious if that's a pre-existing thing
because now that i understand clipping i'm pretty stoked, but hashtagging the vods would be so nice
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WhiteNervosa 11-Nov-19 05:19 PM
ye it'd be a simple timestamp with a link to that point, conceptually it seems super easy PepoThink
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theorypleeb 11-Nov-19 05:23 PM
haha well shit
i love that'
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theorypleeb 13-Nov-19 12:33 PM
ok so to-do list-wise I'd like to begin doing all my streams on the website this week if possible
you said it's basically good to go i just have to do something behind the scenes to make it viewable
then i can start adding badges and colors and tiers to the web chat there
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WhiteNervosa 13-Nov-19 05:20 PM
yes. monkaHmm
You should be able to see your stream on the site live already when youi're live
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theorypleeb 13-Nov-19 06:18 PM
dooope
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WhiteNervosa 16-Nov-19 01:07 AM
yo famalam. Good news in regards to the site, I do have a full time job so I can't work as much as I did before however, since I can't stream anyway due to those hours, they can* be spent towards the site during weekends and after work. So, I don't have a minimum amount needed anymore, although fulltime on the site would be a great goal it can be just that, and I can put all my free time into what I love doing peepoHappy - so I'm on board (edited)
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theorypleeb 16-Nov-19 10:51 AM
Thanks WN
For the heads up
I've not been where I want to be with this website rn. I'm in a bit of a slump mood because of my living situation. I have to move again. Already. No reasons given. It could be because I'm a little queer. It could be because I explained that I take the side of Joker in the recent movie once... it could be because I used the decorative towels to dry my hands until they told me not to. Who knows. They wont say. I just have to move. I was supposed to be good here for at least six months. Now I'm broke and barred access to the content and community i spent the last year building, and I dont know what to do or where to go. It'll be ok. I'll get it figured out. This is apparently just life at this point.
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theorypleeb 27-Nov-19 12:40 PM
hey miss you how you doing
how's full time work life
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theorypleeb 29-Nov-19 01:05 PM
Heeeey
I want to talk about the website when you've got the time
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WhiteNervosa 30-Nov-19 10:07 AM
ye lmk today
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theorypleeb 30-Nov-19 10:08 AM
Hihi
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WhiteNervosa 30-Nov-19 10:08 AM
right now? oh I'm waiting on uhhhh not my dealer so gimmie an hour yo pepohmm
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theorypleeb 30-Nov-19 10:09 AM
Lmao
Ok well I only have about an hour no worries though
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WhiteNervosa 30-Nov-19 10:09 AM
don't judge me peepoHmmCoffee
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theorypleeb 30-Nov-19 10:10 AM
Traveling all day with my parents
Lol why would I judge your ass
I would have a dealer if not for living close to the border
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WhiteNervosa 30-Nov-19 10:10 AM
people always do. FeelsBadMan
you can be a dealer anywhere POGGIES
terrible profession you are always about to die POGGIES
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theorypleeb 30-Nov-19 11:13 AM
true
ok I might have to leave this coffee shop any minute now but
if you're around maybe we can touch base really fast
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WhiteNervosa 30-Nov-19 11:14 AM
I mean you gonna be around later today or tomorrow? pepohmm
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theorypleeb 30-Nov-19 01:08 PM
Tomorrow yes
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theorypleeb 01-Dec-19 01:09 PM
good day to you
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theorypleeb 01-Dec-19 01:47 PM
For some reason Theorypleeb.com doesn't bring me to the website, it just says under maintenance, but if I got to copypastagitprop.com THEN it redirects to theorypleeb.com and it works fine
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theorypleeb 01-Dec-19 05:32 PM
can we make it so that when people log in to chat on the website we can ask them if they want to get updates when I'm streaming or making special announcements??? Then they should get a png notification on their phone if I'm going live. Or I can ping them to say "Tomorrow I'm doing something special" etc
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theorypleeb 01-Dec-19 11:12 PM
Whiiiiiiiiiiiite\
I need theorypleeb.com/YTwalkout AND copypastaagitprop.com/YTwalkout to take a person to a scheduler page. I talked a lot with Jeremy about what that page needs to be like, but also how it's important to get the crowdfunding part up before the 5th, and then we were supposed to talk so I could update you.
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theorypleeb 02-Dec-19 12:38 AM
I'm sure you're swamped. When this happens I should just map out what's needed. I'll do that in the morning or before I crash if lucky
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WhiteNervosa 02-Dec-19 04:17 PM
Sorry; uh, huh. I'll read over this in a minute just got home pepohmm
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theorypleeb 02-Dec-19 04:37 PM
no worries
I drew pictures of what is basically needed so I can give you a quick crashcourse on those
wish i could send voice messages
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theorypleeb 02-Dec-19 04:50 PM
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:19 AM
Started a call that lasted 0 minutes.
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:19 AM
I'm uh
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:20 AM
So my crowdfunding campaign launches in two days and you've told me two days in a row you would respond shortly
My last two days have literally revolved around waiting for you to do what you said you would do.
24 hours per day lol
Jeremy has been waiting to hear back the whole time because if he needs to take over he needs to know some thinga.
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:22 AM
What? Why would you launch the crowdfunding campaign? The last I heard from you was that you needed a break for personal shit. Yeah, you're rushing it in the wrong way m80, I'll tell him whatever he needs to fork the project.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:23 AM
BECAUSE I AM HOMELESS!!!
I NEED MONEY TO MOVE
this is a literal emergency
I am "living" somewhere I'm not welcome
I already told you we were running up on a deadline but this isnt a conversation about whether that is ok or not
I need to know if you were dying or just like "fuck you"
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:24 AM
I work full time, I get home, I work on the site full time. You do you homie. I'm working constantly because if I don't have health care I die.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:25 AM
Saying you will be available or respond and then not doing so is not the same thing as working in the site and having to work to survive.
It's unprofessional
You never said "hey I wont be available for a week" you said you would get right back to me
Two days in a row
My birthday is on the 6th and I need the campaign up before then, and the sooner it's up and running the sooner I can start calling people and actually get my move in motion
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:28 AM
I'm doing both. Your last message to me was needing a link shortener or worse, a feature. The sites been being recorded from the ground up. Dawg, I have memory issues and I was knocked during the weekend, Monday I was good but you said something about wishing you could record voice?
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:28 AM
Until then everything is on hold but I am living in a hostile space
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:29 AM
I'm sorry, I have no time. I try my best, you've seen my to do list, you got Jeremy.
I had to quit streaming, I have no free time.
I wish you both the best of luck.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:35 AM
Asked how you are doing on the 27th. Said we need to talk on the 29th. You said to let you know the following day, which i did but you were meeting with your dealer and so i couldn't talk before traveling in a vehicle with others all day. Then you asked if I would be around the next day and I said yes. Then I followed up the next day with a random thing u was curious about but it was just a conversation starter you didnt respond to for 6 hours, so then I sent more messages on the day you'd said you'd be available. No responses that day. I added some stuff but still nothing CLOSE to the 30 straight minutes of explaining the situation required to get you on the same page as Jeremy. Then you just said you would look over what I sent you. What I sent you was nothing though. I said we need to talk. So ok, we can chalk it up to memory and you got hit, and you thought it was just the stuff I wrote, but since the 27th I've been trying pretty hard to talk after having not really asked anything for a couple of weeks.
Ok but does Jeremy need to literally build me an entire new website?
To have any idea of what he needs to or can do we would still need to talk
Hes essentially just wasting time until we three get to talk
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:38 AM
I told you if I didn't have income this would happen, I chose the site over everything else, you say unprofessional but I haven't paid an electric bill from the sites revenue. So, I sincerely don't know what to tell you at this point.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:38 AM
I didnt even bring up the three way chat where you haven't responded at all. It's weird.
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:38 AM
I mute multi chats.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:38 AM
Professional means doing what you say, or giving a heads up when you cant. Pretty straight forward.
Oh thanks for the heads up
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:39 AM
This isn't new? PepoThink
Look, I was in a tough spot, I needed money or I was going to die. I got lucky with this, you told me not to expect income, I didn't. I wish you both the best.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:42 AM
You said it didnt mean you were stopping
You also said there would be someone taking over
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:42 AM
I was going to die. They are someone who can reboot the servers, it is a deadmans switch.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:44 AM
Did you tell Jeremy you weren't helping anymore last time the two of you talked?
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:44 AM
No, I'm still working full time on the site. It's being recoded
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:47 AM
Yeah so, the info that you're muting group chats is probably old news for you but pretty new to me.
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:48 AM
Again, though, this is not a team. The crowd funding should be for your housing. It shouldn't be a hastily pushed site that isn't MVP. Sorry, but that isn't new. I've never responded. I wish you both the best of luck, Jeremy has every source file and password.
I'm in far too many chats to keep up with it.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:49 AM
There are a lot of reasons why the crowdfunding and then the walkout scheduler need to go together, and preferably on a personal site, and that it should be done on The Build because a ton of people will be coming in through these two means
When you say you wish us both the best of luck but are still working on recording the site, it sounds like you have no interest in working on my site anymore. Just Vaush and Pigpunchers? Or are you saying something esle?
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 10:51 AM
Add a CName word press redirect. Jeremy can help. I am working on WhiteLeaf. That means everyone's site. I no longer wish to be involved in the Sov Build.
I haven't slept in 30 hours, I have DnD I wish I could reschedule, but alas, I'm at work. Please direct all immediate website inquiries to Jeremy. I am recoding everything to be drag and drop for a Boomer. This will take time. I am volunteering here. At work, though, so again, please direct inquiries for your domain to Jeremy.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 10:55 AM
Thanks
I'm not mad, just relieved to know what I'm working with. Sorry to add any stress. Good luck. Hope you get some rest.
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 12:37 PM
hey the site won't pull up anything
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 12:39 PM
I'll try restarting the server
Can't do too much more from here
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 12:42 PM
Well it worked yesterday. Vaush's site works.
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 12:43 PM
It's back up for me, Vaush's site costs like $110/mo
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theorypleeb 03-Dec-19 12:44 PM
ok yeah it works
thanks
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WhiteNervosa 03-Dec-19 12:45 PM
ye.PepoComfy
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WhiteNervosa 17-Dec-19 08:26 AM
I'll be able to show you the Drag and Drop BOOMER styled Footer, Navbar, and Homepage creators preview this weekend. Assuming you're on WhiteLe.af, still, this is the update you'll receive Q1 2020. It is the easy style we wanted of having footer links that you can just click to pick up and move it where you want, click on the gear to change the icon/color/link, etc. I know we've split builds, but if it can be integrated I am more than willing to shoot the code to Jeremy before its FOSS-ready.
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WhiteNervosa 17-Dec-19 08:35 AM
I hope there are no ill-will between the two of us, I apologize for the impression I left, it was a bad weekend for me (and I'm sure far more for you due to stress) leading to my work week where I'm ready after work and I should have reached out to you, but sincerely I have memory problems so due to me not noting it down and Discord not allowing me to mark it unread I did not recollect. So, for that I apologize, and did not mean to mislead you. I did expect and intend to be ready during that weekend to talk and due to unforeseen circumstances I was not, and that is fully my fault as well as not keeping a note to let you know during the week to get in touch. Really quick note, not forgiving anything I did, Vaush's site did go down twice this past week but when it does I have about 4 people DM me, so I get it back up much quicker than other sites and am able to trouble shoot what is taking it offline. Which is also being fixed for the other servers, but I do not have that ability for other servers because when they're offline I can only reboot them to re-gain access to the terminal, losing all hope of seeing what brought it down once it boots back up. For Vaush's, the same applies, but due to his stream schedule and onslaught of 2,000 people when he goes live its much easier for me to watch the server's CPU/RAM usage to see what was causing it to hit 100% usage, crashing but not restarting it.
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WhiteNervosa 17-Dec-19 09:27 PM
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theorypleeb 17-Dec-19 10:25 PM
I am not ignoring you and can't wait to catch up. Thanks for the thoughtful message. Looking forward to the video. Sorry I've been streaming with every waking breath.
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WhiteNervosa 17-Dec-19 10:25 PM
All is well, no ill-intent taken, I understand the hustle. Especially the one you're going through. I hope its looking positive.
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WhiteNervosa 27-Dec-19 06:18 AM
I wish we had a group chat; but the first large recode update will be chat. Its being entirely recoded in ReactJS instead of JQuery. The reason for this is to introduce the ability to upload emotes & badges on the fly. If there are any features that you think should be built into the chat, let me know. Adding commands, bot stuff, etc. can be done after but this is the actual base that everything will be built from and on top of. Already removed was the inability to send a duplicate message (instead it will do another check to prevent someone from flooding the chat), but things like that. The new, non-crazy as fuck Trello board is https://trello.com/invite/b/bYGRPxru/265fd5c8f3b6daa3ba942bffdf869cac/whiteleaf-website if you want to follow the status - https://streamable.com/ype78 (edited)
Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what's being worked on, who's working on what, and where something is in a process.
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theorypleeb 30-Dec-19 07:21 PM
I've been thinking about reaching out every day for a week but my mode while on the go is voice messages through WhatsApp, FB, etc. I'm curious if you would get/add me on WhatsApp? It's the best for voice in a million ways compared to the rest.
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WhiteNervosa 31-Dec-19 03:18 AM
I've personally never used it and prefer Discord PepoThink - I can get it if thats what you have to use to communicate
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theorypleeb 31-Dec-19 03:23 AM
I think I could sell you on it by reason alone but I hate typing
😂
Wish I had cool emojis like you
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WhiteNervosa 31-Dec-19 03:29 AM
Encryption? because shits back door'd
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theorypleeb 31-Dec-19 04:35 AM
It's good for its functionality in terms of voice messages, with a few other winning perks.
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WhiteNervosa 31-Dec-19 04:37 AM
Ah, I mean I'm sure its good considering its popularity and the high competition, I'd literally just be using it to talk with you PepoThink - Vocaroo is what I've seen people use the in the past for voice messages but its been years since that was a thing* I've seen (edited)
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theorypleeb 31-Dec-19 04:41 AM
I use 10 platforms and several just to talk to individuals.
It's so dumb
Discord would be good enough if it had even had Instagram level voice messages (which suck worse than FB)
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WhiteNervosa 31-Dec-19 04:44 AM
tbh I just never use voice messages, but I guess why not have it as a feature. Probably data storage but fuck the amount of emotes they store
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theorypleeb 31-Dec-19 12:32 PM
Lol yeah
I just cant depend on live communication when doing manual labor,driving, or living somewhere without high speed internet. I've been doing a lot of those three things, as well as moving.
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theorypleeb 06-Jan-20 10:48 PM
to use the donations thingy on twitch they want me to pay for prime
does my webpage already come with the capabilities of hosting the donations widget?
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 06:56 AM
Streamlabs does it free and the website uses that method PepoThink
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 11:50 AM
whaat
when I try to set it up through Streamlabs it insists it won't launch unless I get Prime
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 12:54 PM
wait you don't publish a custom site
that is for like, extra perks, like your own domain, for a streamlabs.com/theorypleeb its free PepoThink
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 05:31 PM
oooh
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 05:39 PM
I mean 12 dolleridoos a year* (I just read monthly, billed annually, that actually is a lot of dolleridoos) isn't much but, its not worth it and I think it would actually hurt. People use streamlabs for the same reason people use PayPal, they've used it before, other streamers use it, its common. But if you had custom branding and all that, people would be wary to type their credit info into it so idk what they're going for pepohmm (edited)
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 05:40 PM
I'll just have to figure out how to make the donations work on streamlabs without going Prime.
Doesn't seem to be an option
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 05:40 PM
Just make a streamlabs account and your username should be the page PepoThink
like what is your streamlabs username
theorypleeb's official website powered by Streamlabs
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 07:05 PM
it's copypastagitprop
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 07:06 PM
thats your donate link fam
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 07:07 PM
yeah I've been to it but
when I try to edit it, that's when I can't save without it requiring prime
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WhiteNervosa 07-Jan-20 07:07 PM
Its been awhile since I've looked, but there isn't much you can edit iirc, I think you can choose the color scheme and like a logo, but what more matters?
people are there for a minute, donate, leave PepoThink
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theorypleeb 07-Jan-20 07:12 PM
Hey, so long as they can donate I'm good haha
thanks. I can't believe I livestreamed so much without getting that going
have a good night
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theorypleeb 14-Jan-20 01:43 PM
Hey WN how you doin
Just wanted to let you know I want to make a change but am worried about fucking up my site
It has the wrong YT now that I got my old channel back
When I go into social links there are three places I can put links, the first two don't look like full urls, and the third seems like a general redirect... for all the videos?
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WhiteNervosa 14-Jan-20 04:02 PM
You just put your channel ID, can't be the username because it uses the ID to pool the recent videos. Don't worry about fucking anything up, it could always be reverted and I hope your audience knows the site is in heavy development
Sorry for the late reply - still at my 9-5.
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WhiteNervosa 17-Jan-20 12:21 AM
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theorypleeb 17-Jan-20 02:58 PM
What's that
your early wip secret memes
I love the poll option
Is what you were showing me a phone app for chat? Is that the website video chat?
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WhiteNervosa 17-Jan-20 07:30 PM
That is the chat mobile app and then just the new chat in general. It being note-worthy because its 100% our code.
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theorypleeb 18-Jan-20 01:34 PM
fuck yeah
good work
you're a beast
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WhiteNervosa 18-Jan-20 01:35 PM
I'm trying peepoHands
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theorypleeb 04-Feb-20 11:25 AM
Heeeey
I'll begin streaming regularly within the next couple of weeks. I want to sometimes use Twitch and other times use YouTube—but either way, when live, the people can tune in from the same spot on my site.
That way they don't have to bounce between platforms or use different accounts—same tiers and badges, etc., will apply regardless of from where I'm streaming.
Just curious if this is already possible?
(Once we figure that out, then I need to learn how to get the website chat to show in OBS instead of the YT or Twitch chat)
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WhiteNervosa 04-Feb-20 04:00 PM
Yeah thats already possible, you just switch the streaming mode on your site and they would sub on your site rather than those sites to have perks follow you and not the site
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theorypleeb 06-Feb-20 12:45 AM
ok awesome. can't wait
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WhiteNervosa 15-Feb-20 02:46 AM
Whats yer email? PepoThink
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WhiteNervosa 17-Feb-20 07:26 AM
Yo didn't you have the law firm duders? All I need is an angel investor to actually make the site a CMS, like fucking every other obnoxious "started in their garage" Steve Jobs Bill Gates Jeff Bezos Elon Musk $250k loans to just work. Not that I need that insane amount of cash inflow, again just to live. This is going at a snails pace because I gotta work full time. Not expected, just axing.
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theorypleeb 18-Feb-20 11:38 AM
totally hmm. that law firm duder isn't someone I ever reached out to because i had to move from that area so soon
but i'll start thinking hard about a way to make that work for you
my email is
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WhiteNervosa 18-Feb-20 11:40 AM
I'll pop an email to ya. Dynamic chat (custom emotes uploads, flairs, colors, and built from scratch to work on mobile) is going into beta near the end of this month
Obviously I'll continue working on it regardless, just working 80 hours a week is uh, quite the soul crushing hurdle. peepoSad - well, and a time vacuum. (edited)
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theorypleeb 18-Feb-20 11:43 AM
yeah 😦
I put my new video uploads playlist for the proper channel into the info on the admin site, under social media... those don't show up, it's still the old ones
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WhiteNervosa 18-Feb-20 11:59 AM
oh I think that is for a VODS link in the navbar
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theorypleeb 18-Feb-20 12:05 PM
hmm
well how to make it work then?
"Theory pleeb" is a working class theory nerd. They produce video, blog, and podcast content about philosophy and critical theory. Mostly videos though. This...
"Theory pleeb" is a working class theory nerd. They produce video, blog, and podcast content about philosophy and critical theory. Mostly videos though. This...
I put "UC5dMDMT8K1_X8TV1J7ALIxg" into YouTube Channel ID
didn't know what to put in the "YouTube Feed" link spot
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WhiteNervosa 18-Feb-20 12:18 PM
which playlist?
because the first link is your channel
OH you mean the site isn't intaking this channels uploads
You have it in the right spot, the cron must be stopped, lemmie look
Ah, if you did it in the past hour the cronjob was set to fire every 30 minutes, I changed that to 5
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theorypleeb 18-Feb-20 01:47 PM
ok awesome thanks
there we go
can we make it so it doesn't say it's still under construction?
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WhiteNervosa 18-Feb-20 02:03 PM
I can remove the text yeah, it'll be this weekend so pardon.
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theorypleeb 18-Feb-20 02:04 PM
sweet I'll begin actually using the site for the first time once i'm finished moving on the 27th or so
then i'll need to do some layout and overall aesthetic stuff
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theorypleeb 01-Mar-20 02:39 PM
How do I customize emotes people can use on the site? and how do I make it so the website chat shows on OBS and not the Twitch or YT chat?
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WhiteNervosa 01-Mar-20 07:04 PM
Your domain /chat/static/chatstreamed.html is the on screen chat. Emotes are not customizable on site, yet. That is the second main motivator for building new chat, hot swapping emotes, the first being mobile/app support. You just have to send me the emotes and tell me to add'em and I try to ASAP
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theorypleeb 05-Mar-20 05:31 PM
oh ok cool thanks!
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WhiteNervosa 14-Mar-20 10:01 PM
A site back up of VODs will be released within a week, I remember that being a feature you wanted. peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 15-Mar-20 08:45 AM
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cooool
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theorypleeb 19-Mar-20 12:36 AM
Yo WHite, be advised, I've had word from someone in the National Guard that marshal law may be declared in 48 to 72 hours. Lock down, nationwide. Plan as though this is true, and hope for the best. Everyone should have two weeks of food and be prepared to not leave in that time.
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theorypleeb 09-Apr-20 08:49 PM
Starting Saturday I want to base viewership on the site
Can we make it so my YouTube AND Twitch streams, whichever is active, will show up on the site?
And as for custom emotes, do you need the three same basic dimensions used by Twitch?
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WhiteNervosa 09-Apr-20 09:12 PM
You have to do that manually; No, the only limit is 32 pixels tall.
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theorypleeb 09-Apr-20 11:53 PM
Could you walk me through how to do the manual switch between YT and Twitch on the site? I'll be using YT for lecture streams and Twitch for Discord calls and casual hours.
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WhiteNervosa 09-Apr-20 11:54 PM
When on the admin dashboard, hitting switch and clicking the platform should allow you to save it as your default platform
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theorypleeb 09-Apr-20 11:54 PM
In an ideal world I could get the chat from my site to combine with restream's chat but IDK if that's possible...
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WhiteNervosa 09-Apr-20 11:55 PM
I mean, that kind of defeats the purpose of site chat PepoThink
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theorypleeb 09-Apr-20 11:56 PM
but if not I'll just use the site on screen.
is that because you see the purpose of site chat as a draw
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WhiteNervosa 09-Apr-20 11:57 PM
Well, why subscribe or use it at all if what you already use is integrated? Its partly a draw, but its also partly that you want people who prefer it to have others using it, if its a dead chat it will remain dead.
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theorypleeb 09-Apr-20 11:58 PM
gotchya
well I want to get people using it for sure
Last question
how do I get site chat to show on streamlabs instead of Twitch or YT, whichever I'm streaming to at the time?
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:04 AM
yoururl.com/chat/static
oh sorry
/chat/static/chatstreamed.html
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:07 AM
so I plug that url into streamlabs somewhere
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:07 AM
your overlay - wherever you had chat before PepoThink
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:08 AM
ok bear with me
i'm pretty stupid
but are you saying streamers are just taking that webpage captured as a window, then overlaying it and changing... opacity or something
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:09 AM
That is every chat
The background is transparent
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:09 AM
"chatbox" is automatic and is just one source
it's not a window capture
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:09 AM
SLOBS?
Its a URL capture.
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:09 AM
yeah
oh...
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:09 AM
SLOBS is OBS but simpler.
so it automatically gets your chatbox for you
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:11 AM
well, it's not very straight forward.
No where in there is there a url
that's the chatbox properties
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:15 AM
gotchya
I've never used a browser source before. Thanks
for future reference with SLOBS users, "chatbox" shouldn't be used as a source then.
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:16 AM
well you were when using the chatbox, it just is automated for slobs
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:16 AM
ooh
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 12:16 AM
well I hate slobs and do not recommend people use it but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 12:41 AM
oooh reaaally good to know
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theorypleeb 10-Apr-20 01:08 AM
how do you modify the chat so it shows up better? some kind of shadow or something? or do I just have to put it over a black background?
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WhiteNervosa 10-Apr-20 01:08 AM
Yeah Destiny and Vaush just add a black gradient
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theorypleeb 11-Apr-20 04:41 PM
cool so I got the chat set up
yesterday while streaming that chat, up on the browser tab, said "The Vaush Pit" for my chat
I'm about to send a few emotes I would like to begin using
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WhiteNervosa 11-Apr-20 04:44 PM
Really quick; make sure you include the code/keyword you'd like the emotes to be. I will try to get it up ASAP. Just work stress lately has kept me busy.
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theorypleeb 11-Apr-20 04:44 PM
I feel you
I will send each with the code
normiesocialism
clipNship
clip
timenergy
spread
timenergy2
wtf
cancelled
on Twitch it's kind of cool how you can enlarge these to get a better look at them but fuck it, I'll trade resolution for freedom
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WhiteNervosa 11-Apr-20 05:01 PM
Yeah; I'm coding new chat as fast as I can but truly most people don't click anyway. I presume you want all of these as free emotes, not in the hidden menu, and all caps ?
And I'll fix the Vaush Pit title
cancelled is a JPG and has the background
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theorypleeb 11-Apr-20 05:33 PM
oh shit i'll fix it
yes these are all free emotes
actually put cancelled behind a pay wall
i'll have more for subscribers soon
We'll have a Philsoophers Tier which unlocks all the philosopher busts
btw stream today is going to be on intro to philosophy of science/math, with a bent towards statistics and populations in a political context
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theorypleeb 11-Apr-20 05:46 PM
btw FROM THE CREATOR standpoint I want a restream chat, but I don't need that on the audience end. After our last chat I realized that's what I needed, but I think I can use restream chat to keep up with YT/Twitch simultaneously now, just checking in on it sometimes while primarily engaging the personal site chat
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theorypleeb 11-Apr-20 06:49 PM
am I able to use nightbot commands in chat
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WhiteNervosa 12-Apr-20 12:42 AM
No, okay so you just mean a chat that you can see from the admin's end that combines all chats? Maybe PepoThink - it will be awhile before I get to that point
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theorypleeb 12-Apr-20 02:20 AM
actually that won't even be useful no worries @WhiteNervosa
now that I've done restream, I'm really happy it combines YT/Twitch chat separate from my site.
that way I can check in on both sometimes to tell them to join
it went great
I'm stoked to be using it now
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 06:39 PM
Hey White, real quick... before streaming today I'm wondering if we can make the photo/thumbnail that shows when I share the site's live url whatever I want it to be... and is that something I can change every time, like thumbnails, or is it going to be something you have to do and therefore should probably be the same always? Right now it's just white leaves (edited)
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 06:40 PM
Yeah; currently its something that you have to send me that is pre built until the new update.
time FeelsBadMan
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:00 PM
ok cool lemme get this done then
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:41 PM
Ok @WhiteNervosa I got it
and then the profile pic version is
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:42 PM
PepoThink
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:42 PM
But the former is what needs to show up when I share on Twitter or wherever else
will that work?
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:42 PM
You have a favicon, embed image, and logo. The first is the embed, second favicon?
favicon is the 16x16 icon in Chrome next to the website
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:43 PM
oooh lemme make that now but yes it's the cartoon
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:45 PM
Oh I mean I can resize it just wanted to make sure you were okay with it at that size. Sorry, I am making the new backend as quick as I can, but working on the website has had to take even a further back seat because I'm on "if you miss a day or are late for any reason in the next 90 days you're fired" FeelsBadMan
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:46 PM
slightly better revised 16 by 16
I hear ya
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:47 PM
I need it a bigger size
It is mostly seen 16x16 but if people pin it to their home page on mobile it takes an obnoxiously unique different set of sizes but I have a script that runs through it
convert img.png -resize 16x16 favicon.ico && convert img.png -resize 16x16 favicon-16x16.png && convert img.png -resize 32x32 favicon-32x32.png && convert img.png -resize 32x32 favicon-32x32.png && convert img.png -resize 96x96 favicon-96x96.png && convert img.png -resize 128x128 favicon-128x128.png && convert img.png -resize 128x128 favicon-128.png && convert img.png -resize 196x196 favicon-196x196.png && convert img.png -resize 70x70 mstile-70x70.png && convert img.png -resize 144x144 mstile-144x144.png && convert img.png -resize 150x150 mstile-150x150.png && convert img.png -resize 310x310 mstile-310x310.png && convert img.png -resize 196x196 notifyicon.png && convert img.png -resize 32x32 apple-touch-icon-32x32.png && convert img.png -resize 57x57 apple-touch-icon-57x57.png && convert img.png -resize 60x60 apple-touch-icon-60x60.png && convert img.png -resize 72x72 apple-touch-icon-72x72.png && convert img.png -resize 76x76 apple-touch-icon-76x76.png && convert img.png -resize 114x114 apple-touch-icon-114x114.png && convert img.png -resize 120x120 apple-touch-icon-120x120.png && convert img.png -resize 144x144 apple-touch-icon-144x144.png && convert img.png -resize 152x152 apple-touch-icon-152x152.png && convert img.png -resize 128x128 favicon2.ico && convert img.png icon.svg && convert img.png dgg-logo.svg && convert img.png -resize 250x logo.png
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:48 PM
bigger
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:48 PM
gucci
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 07:48 PM
😅
no you're gucci
thank you
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WhiteNervosa 13-Apr-20 07:49 PM
I wish; ye.
oh ye the embed icon
does this work nervoTHINKING https://www.theorypleeb.com/ (edited)
yeah it should Okay should be good to go. (edited)
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theorypleeb 13-Apr-20 08:04 PM
the link to my website worked
🙂
if that's what you're asking
thanks a ton
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theorypleeb 14-Apr-20 10:20 PM
1. A big thing I need to do is change up my homepage now that more people are visiting. Mainly, above the current contents (recent uploads, tweets, etc.) I need to have 3 thumbnails with one sentence descriptions, each is a category i.e. LECTURES, ESSAYS, RANTS. Each would take the visitor to a separate page, each page populated with videos from a different YT playlist. (edited)
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theorypleeb 14-Apr-20 11:22 PM
2. This has been at 0 but it still says under maintenance. (edited)
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theorypleeb 14-Apr-20 11:30 PM
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WhiteNervosa 15-Apr-20 09:37 AM
That setting is to swap the homepage from https://www.whitenervosa.com to what you have. It says under construction because it is, its a barebones skeleton until I can add those options in for site admins to add and move content.
WhiteLe.af Web-App
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theorypleeb 15-Apr-20 10:17 AM
oooooh fair
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theorypleeb 17-Apr-20 04:00 AM
for some reason this happens
my name gets cut off
Hearypleeb
lol
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WhiteNervosa 17-Apr-20 04:05 AM
A temp fix to fix it immediately, in OBS, I do not know where this is in SLOBS - right click the Browser source, Properties, and in Custom CSS on a new line add
.msg-chat .features .flair { margin-right: -2px !important; }
Then refresh cache
Yeah its the same on SLOBS, right clicking the chat source, properties, then in Custom CSS add that as a new line
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theorypleeb 20-Apr-20 01:36 AM
just lettin you know
My partner also said she couldn't get it to work right from Safari on phone. Should she just use a different browser?
No rush
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WhiteNervosa 20-Apr-20 01:38 AM
PepoThink I don't know what that means. You put a username in when you are registering, if they logged in prior they were either logging in and not knowing it, as it doesn't show you a place to put your username, or they logged in with a different OAUTH method and it prompted them to make a new account. For the second thing, I assume the same without more information. Most of the time people who have trouble logging in forgot how they logged in the first time.
There isn't exactly a way to make the place where you put the username stand out more. If you log in though, it just puts you back to the page where you started signing in from.
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theorypleeb 20-Apr-20 01:40 AM
they tried to login but it didn't work and it's because they didn't see the chat? they're still in chat if you wanna say hi
punksci is a streamer so he can probably help
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WhiteNervosa 20-Apr-20 01:41 AM
They may not see the chat if they are on a browser that doesn't support websockets, certain older phones don't.
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theorypleeb 20-Apr-20 01:41 AM
Oh about my partner, well, she just couldn't see chat when she tried to see from Safari. She said she couldn't scroll down to the bottom or that when she could it would freeze
or pause the video I mean
ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 20-Apr-20 01:42 AM
What version of iPhone? PepoThink
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theorypleeb 20-Apr-20 01:42 AM
gotta set my stream up people are waiting lol
oh I think it's a 10
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WhiteNervosa 20-Apr-20 01:42 AM
From my testing it worked fine with chat, if they are on the newest iOS
You couldn't log in? PepoThink
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theorypleeb 24-Apr-20 09:19 PM
yeah IDK what the issue was but I just reset my password
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theorypleeb 07-May-20 12:04 AM
how are the emotes coming?
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theorypleeb 08-May-20 02:02 AM
I need a proof of concept before I pitch this model to universities or law firms.
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 02:04 AM
I don't know what you want me to give or show you. The proof of concept is Vaush.gg and I had to have sent you the drag and drop UI streamables PepoThink - right now my main focus is getting the new backend live with a couple front end parts and once that has proven stable, rapidly update from there
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theorypleeb 08-May-20 02:11 AM
Vaush isnt really a proof of concept for what I need to pitch, which we haven't talked about because I'm still waiting for the emotes before I really start using this seriously. I think Jeremy is still available to bring on board, but ultimately what I need isnt that complex and is potentially worth a lot more seeing as I can pitch it to institutions as a class room replacement. Most of that work I've done myself with learning OBS and setting up a dynamic teaching space, but the main things to be done before I can show this to universities or law firms is related to the flare/tiers and course modules. I haven't talked about the course modules much (beyond the stuff above about playlists) but that's because I'm not trying to overwhelm you when I know you're really busy.
But I know you're interested in me pitching this to institutions with deeper pockets... I dont need the modules for a couple months because I first need to record the classes
I just dont want to record classes for a polished series without first having the emotes there
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 02:16 AM
Its on the to do list, I have two patreon emotes on the to do list, the idea that the emotes are what is keeping you from being able to pitch this is quite insulting and I wish you would just say that the emotes are a high priority for you. I have memory issues, I know I've said this before and we've talked about it but the problem is - as everyone does - when you have a notification on Discord, you read it. Problem being, if I don't do the thing right then I will get in the groove of other things. Jeremy has had the source code since we had last spoken about it, if ya'll wanted, you could've spun in into whatever you had in mind
I was never looking for deep pockets, I just wanted to not die. At the time, I kept that to myself, because I didn't want anyone else to feel compelled or guilty. But, I had sent the deadman switch to two people not expecting to land health insurance in a month - e.g. die. I got my will notarized everything ready to go. Fast forward to now, I'm back working on the website full time, the server costs still outweigh the patreon income, but through the money I've saved up and careful planning, I can budget this correctly. If you can get some investor, that'd be amazing, but again, quite insulted that is brought up in the same statement about emotes.
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theorypleeb 08-May-20 02:24 AM
Sorry brb
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 02:25 AM
Wow.
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 02:37 AM
I can only say I'm insulted, hurt, and reject that offer in every sense. WhiteLe.af will continue on its current roadmap.
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theorypleeb 08-May-20 12:53 PM
I did not get to your message until now. I had a phone call pull me away and it was a pretty intense one, entirely unrelated and more immediately pressing at the time. Sorry you are hurting. I get being busy, and I get your priorities being about survival. I've spent the last three weeks holding back on the reminder about the emotes, and then that was a few days ago so I thought I'd get your attention by reminding you that for me this is the tip of an iceberg for a bigger project. For my little community, the emotes + multistreaming are my two big stated reasons for wanting to quit affiliate and make this move, so it's something people ask about and that comes up from time to time, "We get to have the freedom to do whatever emotes we want." Yeah, but if I keep saying that while talking up your epic build, it kind of gets awkward eventually when they aren't coming through. You're right, it shouldn't hold me back from fleshing out that proof of concept. Also, you're right, Jeremy could probably do the stuff for the modules. But those modules aren't even going up until I've done a polished course, and I wanted to already have my overall general new aesthetic and flare in place with the defined tiers before launching a rigorous schedule for a philosophy 101 course, to really show off what we're doing and have fun. So this has felt like a creativity block. Now, it's likely that this is some stupid psychological projection or scapegoating, and there are other factors playing into my creativity block--in fact, I know this to be true. Nevertheless, I feel like the last couple of weeks were spent either depressed or preparing for the direction I'm about to go with this course development. Now that I'm finally there, the emotes feel like the last thing besides a couple pieces of hardware in the mail.
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 07:29 PM
I've heard this sentiment only twice by you and another person who wants to use WhiteLe.af apart of a co-op. You shouldn't quit affiliate - you should still try to become partnered, no matter what the site offers. It gives you more discoverability, bounty board opportunities, and a stable environment. The site is not a replacement by any means for any of these sites and is not supposed to be, video hosting is extremely expensive and when Vaush was striked off YouTube we ran the math and if he streamed at the rate he does now, it would easily range into the thousands. The site is complimentary to the platforms you're already on, giving an audience a way to support you without a revenue split, a place where your content will always be presented from, and the expanse that comes from that. Jeremy isn't doing stuff for the modules because he's either seen how fucking difficult this is as a project or hasn't yet had the time to realize how fucking difficult this is as a project. This is easy if you're making it for one person, its not. It needs to allow for wildly different variables and do what most sites never worry about - hot reloading pages. Wordpress is a clunky and slow fuck because CMS' are extremely difficult. So, it has to be built to be small enough that it is cheap to host while at the same time being dynamic enough to allow creators to make it how they see it. Even the most basic website builders will give you terrible results in speed tests. To suggest WhiteLe.af is an epic build is a huge overstatement and, it will be at some point, but that takes a ton of careful effort and foundational work. It should already be awkward to talk up the website in that sense because everyone has to come to me to add emotes unless you know how to use bash which defeats the aim of accessibility. There's a reason it forces "under construction" on the homepage and is still under version 1. The new back end & front end will go live on V.gg for stability tweaking in a few days.
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WhiteNervosa 08-May-20 07:37 PM
I prepped your emotes I just hadn't bundled them and rebuilt your chat, because I have memory loss, so if its not strictly on my to do list as the literal next thing to do - I won't get to it until this to do list is done. I still cannot truly express the gravity of bringing up investors in relation to chat emotes, as around the end of 2019 I had to quit working on the website full time and you later wanted to run a fundraiser, now that I am back working on the site full time - which you did not know - you again mention investors/fundraising. The reason it hurts is because it entirely comes across as if you do not care about the work and time I put in but only the end product and how you can re-shape it to be, in your words, more valuable.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:05 AM
I don't know what you do. All I know is that you said you'd do a thing, and I've been waiting on it, and not having it has felt like a creative block. That's more of a me issue than a you issue, but I am serious about doing this and it doesn't require much more than what's already here. Thanks for reminding me of the memory loss thing, but maybe that's a part of your frustration or hurt in this regard: Have you forgotten that you're the one who brought up investors recently? The last time was not, as you indicated here, in November. It was in February. You asked and I said I would start thinking about it, and when I think about something I obsess over it.
And Jeremy said he's available but I told him I'm moving and thinking about what I really need and how to go about it, so that's all been on standby because I'm not trying to waste anyone's time.
I swear I'm not trying to be a Karen but I never know how to bring stuff up without sounding like one. It's why I don't do a lot of organizing anymore, I'm very self conscious about it. So I'm sorry, it just isn't anything remotely similar to what it was in Novemeber. A lot more simple and something that will probably be done by Jeremy or someone else, that's not a big deal or something I planned on seriously thinking about until at least the first intro course is near completion to go up.
You asked about law duders, but the university duders is probably really where the money is at right now if you needed just one or a couple deep pockets. Ultimiately that would be rad, but for me there's the selfish reason of just wanting it for myself. I just suspect I know a lot of other people who would want it for their departments if they saw me model it.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:14 AM
Pardon, I didn't mean to imply that I didn't ask about it or it was only ever brought up by you. That was in reference to how I felt when I previously had to quit working on the site full time*. That message, albeit more recent, is still something that I hope you understand the gravity of. In that message I say, its going at a snails pace due to the full time job and me trying to work on the site in the meantime. It wasn't working. So, I had to choose to gamble my life on a passion that I love or a soulless 9-5 where I have close friends made and fired and made and fired. I am never hurt or bothered by messages asking me to do things again, as that is why I do make an attempt to re-iterate that I have memory loss. Which, also gets annoying because I forget how often I've said it ᶦᵗˢ ᵃⁿ ᶦˢˢᵘᵉ ᵍᵉⁿᵘᶦⁿᵉˡʸ ᴵ ᶠᵉᵉˡ ᵇᵃᵈ ᵇᵘᵗ ᶦᵈᵏ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᵉˡˢᵉ ᵗᵒ ᵈᵒ but if I don't tell people then people typically don't remind me to do things because of socialization. People feel its a pest, its a bother, etc. It seems like that is still the case with a lot of people and it seemed to be yours, too, which isn't your fault - what hurts is that you used the vehicle of my wellbeing and security to remind me of something extremely trivial. Even though it is trivial, it is still high on the to do lists, but its not the main one, so when I wake up the next day I open up the main to do list and get to work. So, TLDR, it hurts that you used that vehicle as a way to remind me about the emotes. (edited)
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:17 AM
Ok, well it hurts you're calling it trivial. It's not at all to me. And this is the first I remember you talking about the memory loss.
It's a big deal to me but I'm trying not to blow it out of proportion.
I'm trying to use a little grace here so we can get along.
I've thought about those emotes every day for about a month. Every day in the middle of stay at home orders.
I said that's probably a me problem. But that's what we both have right now, personal problems and different needs.
Like, stop assuming what I was assuming.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:20 AM
I understand that you didn't know the health insurance memes around that time but still trying to catch someone's attention with the idea of financial security is in poor taste. It is trivial. I was a streamer for two years, I quit to work on the website PepeMods - I understand the love for emotes, the despite to have specific ones, the frustrations with Twitch and their policies, but never any of that prohibiting my content.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:20 AM
You're hurt because you're assuming I was assuming something I wasn't.
I wasn't assuming you're not busy or surviving. And if that's how I came off, I apologize, but it's just not real.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:21 AM
If I wasn't then why would you think it peak my interest? PepoThink
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:21 AM
How you work creatively is different than me.
Generally I think creatives respect the fact that we all have our own weird hang ups.
FINANCIAL SECURITY FUCKING MATTERS TO ME THOUGH
IT
IS
MINE
TOO
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:22 AM
😐
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:22 AM
like jesus fucking chris
like you're the only person trying to survive right now
I've moved 4 times IN A YEAR
I'm unemployed
I've spent the last two months applying and training
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:23 AM
Did I bring this to you or you to me?
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:23 AM
So I don't use this as a fucking carrot
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:23 AM
You did.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:23 AM
It's not a carrot, I have an issue: The person I am working with is not responding to a basic ask they said they'd fulfill, which I reminded them about after a month.
A month of thinking about it every day and being like, fuck, well, WN really can't prioritize this at all.
Granted, I didn't know about the memory loss
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:24 AM
so I thought I'd get your attention by reminding you that for me this is the tip of an iceberg for a bigger project. For my little community, the emotes + multistreaming are my two big stated reasons for wanting to quit affiliate and make this move, so it's something people ask about and that comes up from time to time, "We get to have the freedom to do whatever emotes we want." Yeah, but if I keep saying that while talking up your epic build, it kind of gets awkward eventually when they aren't coming through.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:25 AM
but I did do a follow up just asking how it's going, waited a couple days, and then should have apparently come in here like: "By the way, my entire creative process is thrown off rn and I can't really get a feel for whether I can depend on you or not, but the thing you said about financial security sounds pretty fucking important to me to right now and I'd like to really start moving on some things now that I've found direction, but you're not answering and I'm just wondering what's up."
I knew I was a lower priority because you reminded me explicitly when I originally sent the emotes, so I wasn't expecting anything fast in terms of turn around.
That's fine.
I just need to know sometimes what's going on
so I finally asked
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:26 AM
Or just, say hey, you never responded, don't mean to pester but, it is important to me so if you can give me a timetable etc.etc.
Did you ask?
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:27 AM
You don't remember
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:27 AM
No I mean after the follow up message
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:27 AM
oh, no, because you were hurt
about something I definitely did not understand
and so the whole thing became this reverse engineered conversation
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:28 AM
Ye - I did see that, and despite my best efforts I do as everyone does and when you see a notification, you read it. So, it was prior to me sleeping one night, "I'll respond in the morning" (or I was at work, tbqh I do not recall how it was marked read, I don't recall) and here we are (edited)
I feel I was quite direct from the beginning. Pointing out what you didn't know about my situation*, but still feeling its in poor taste PepoThink (edited)
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:32 AM
I don't regret saying a proof of concept is something I'm rolling up my sleeves here to do or that big funders hinge on it; or that this seemingly trivial thing, as a signifier of "ok, we can do stuff here," would unlock a creative block I have. A block that is in part (thought far from fully) related to whether I can start experimenting and fine tuning before diving into the polished product. I do, however, regret not saying it in a way that came off as insensitive of your own position, work flow, livelihood, or in any way that made it feel like a cheap carrot. You're right, the proper thing to do, the sane thing to say, would have been what you showed me above as a more appropriate response. (edited)
Sorry that first sentence was trash
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:38 AM
Its okay, I think its a little heated so poor wording is expected on both of our parts. I don't think you're a bad person, or else I wouldn't have been hurt, I wouldn't care. I know you are and have been going through a lot, I guess you didn't understand the gravity of how I would read it, so yeah. We won't be able to come to perfect terms here because our PoV's, and that is okay, just again feel free to remind me of things and express its importance. For example, Xanderhal had about a dozen emotes he didn't really care about, but he's usually been good at really reminding me when something is important - of course the logo switch stuff - but he for sure loved KEKW so that one he was sure to remind me about. And none of it was a bother, I wish more people did, but people are socialized to think 'oh, I've already said this,' etc.etc. Probably just need to let things cool off for a few days, I'll frankly forget most of this, and then all of it soon after.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:39 AM
Ok fair enough, thanks for saying so.
So long as you're honest but also supplying with me with better language to use with you (and lets be real, probably everyone else), I'll do better at communicating.
Not that it's really "your job" to educate me on basic shit, I understand.
But I appreciate it and know you're trying to help.
Something I should not have done was wait so long, I should have just kept sending emotes as they were made, rather than waiting on the first ones to go up, because that steady trickle of new ones would serve as reminders.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:41 AM
Naww its everyone's job, in my opinion. Its how people improve peepoHappy - its mutual, as I came off too aggressive and not accurately describing what exactly I had a problem with so a lot got muddled.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:42 AM
I can't find the right emote to use. I don't have access to any of the cool emotes on Discord.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:42 AM
Its the ol' triggered minority stereotype. When you say something a little outdated but not ill intentioned, and someone says 'hey, you probably should use ___ instead' and they go home and rant on Facebook for an hour about it
There's always
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:42 AM
lol
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:42 AM
HUG
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:42 AM
:HUG:
😦
that did not work
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:43 AM
save it and upload it nobody will be able to tell
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:43 AM
genius
BTW, a lot of triggered defenders of minorities on Twitter would tell you you need to not use that pepe
I already got some pushback for people using them in my chat
lol
Makes me consider not having them for the polished course content
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:44 AM
FUCK'EM, it was made by a tree hugging hippie (he is, literally a tree hugging hippie) WE'RE NOT LETTING THEM TAKE OUR SYMBOLS REE
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:44 AM
Not because I believe them, but because... professionalism or whatever
That's what I told them except I didn't really know pepe's origin
But I claim we cannot let the people who call us things monopolize who gets to use those things, whether it's signifiers or symbols, unless it's like holocaust levels of "too soon"
Culture war MEANS that memes have no fixed referent.
That this is a battle ground of meaning.
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:46 AM
A bit long but interesting for the origin of Pepe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC0YQbLWjIM
Matt Furie is the illustrator and cartoonist best known as the creator of Pepe the Frog, a joyful character he was horrified to see co-opted by white nationalists and the alt-right as a mascot during the 2016 election. He’s fought to reclaim Pepe since, including a high-profil...
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:46 AM
So anyway, I've thought about it a lot since we met, since you use it so much. I'm on your side now openly, whereas I was overthinking it before
oh perfect
One of the most toxic things is the repressive left
as opposed to what I call the diffusive left.
Repression comes with drawbacks, though sometimes it's necessary. But people who think power is gained through language repression, being increased to every embodied metaphor, lose an important point about how language functions.
YEE 1
Like I got called antisemetic by a bigger youtuber and 130 of their followers retweeted it because I made a joke about shapeshifting lizards.
it's like, I didn't even say (((SHAPESHIFTERS))) which would have still been fine in the context of the tweet, because that's how you make fun of shit sometimes... but anyway, I stan pepe now. So thanks
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 01:50 AM
HUG
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 01:58 AM
Matt Furie is a chill dude. poor guy
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 09:03 PM
How do I do a poll?
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 10:52 PM
/v Question ending with a question mark? Option one or Option two or Maybe option 3
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 11:47 PM
awesome
I'm pasting "/v What to name the avocado plant here? Option A: Scott. Option B: Betty." in there and nothing happens
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 11:49 PM
"or" is needed, its how it parses the question. Or is basically saying "this is now a different option"
So you'd want
/v What to name the avocado plant here? Option A: Scott. or Option B: Betty.
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 11:52 PM
ok awesome
it goes away fast
is there a way to see it?
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 11:55 PM
It defaults to 30 seconds, uhm, there is a way to specify time PepoThink - I thought it was just a number after but it may be different lemmie check (edited)
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theorypleeb 09-May-20 11:55 PM
no worries
is there a way to pull up the results after?
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WhiteNervosa 09-May-20 11:57 PM
Not currently, by design. Its client side. The server has no idea a poll happened, its just the chat parsing it. For example, if you refresh during a poll it won't be there and you'll see the command and people spamming chat - yeah at the end just type the time you want, like 60s or 1m or 5m
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:00 AM
ok cool
I'll get a 30 second song
on my soundboard
to push when I do this
maybe with an accompanyying GIF
Maybe an Option A, Option B, and FUCK THIS CHOICE emotes
and those emotes will be in the gif, somehow matching the gameshow song
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:02 AM
I mean you can make the poll last longer, the results just will only show for the 7 seconds, sorry. The recode changed it so the server would know when poll was ongoing but that needs a bot to go with it because it also removes the same-message restriction, as that pops because the server just gets the message - being 1/2/3/4 - so a bot needs to be able to better check spam which it currently isn't equipped to do.
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:03 AM
no I love the countdown and being forced to pay attention to it while people do it
creates artificial scarcity in the parameters of time
boosts entergagement
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:04 AM
Ye, thats true, it does create a sense of urgency and people don't want to be the missed votes after the poll. I still want to add those feature sin but, yeah, the new bot is its own project and the site needs to be well rounded before I tackle that.
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:05 AM
cool
Is there a nightbot code for the poll
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:06 AM
How do you mean?
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:06 AM
I guess that doesn't make sense because I'd have to customize the options every time
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:06 AM
Oh like a command that would send a poll option a or b?
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:06 AM
It would just be cool if I could push a button on a stream deck and it triggers the poll with the accompanying GIF and background sound
or gameshow tunes or whatever
Yeah
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:08 AM
That is a good idea, I don't know how to exactly implement it, but definitely something I'll add to the chat to do list. For nightbot, no, as it doesn't work with anything but Twitch chat afaik.
It may work with YouTube chat but I could be wrong
I used phoenix back in my day Boomer because FOSS, so you could name it anything and add anything - not that it worked on anything other than Twitch, itself. (edited)
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:14 AM
I should be able to do it all with what you already have, except instead of Option A or Option B, those will have their own emotes. The rest I can do with other stuff, linking the nightbot through the stream deck
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:16 AM
I'm losing you on the emotes part. PepoThink - I thought you meant it would send a the '/v Question . . .' command in chat to do a sorta auto poll, which nighbot can't do due to it being limited to* Twitch chat. (edited)
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:22 AM
So the button through the nightbot spams the either/or command, the "Question A/B", either one, makes an emote rather than word.
Like if option A said KAPPA
instead of option a
then it would do the emote
and then people could use either emote as their answer
Youtube streamers use emotes for votes a lot of the time
I'm sure some people on Twitch do
A bunch of youtube accounts (like a hundred) got terminated for spamming emotes during a Marki Plier poll lol
Spamming emotes actually got me terminated on YouTube too
In a Bernie stream
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:25 AM
Sure but it wouldn't work in your site chat is what I mean
Also streamers do that because they don't have any way to use polling on the site itself pepoHmm - I haven't seen a Twitch streamer do it since polling was added natively but I don't want streamers too often (edited)
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:46 AM
mmmmm
What if the two emote codes in The Site are OptionA or OptionB, and then if I want to do the emotes instead of the normal code I just use OptionA or OptionB instead of "Option A" or "Option B"?
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:48 AM
The poll will only show text.
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 01:49 AM
but doesn't text also trigger emotes?
or is the site using a different system where text doesn't trigger emotes?
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WhiteNervosa 10-May-20 01:49 AM
And the emotes would be separate from actual votes, they still would have to type 1 or 2. Yes, but the vote UI is client side.
The emotes are text that is replaced with an emote in chat* (edited)
If this makes sense, in theory if you had the site open and never refreshed chat, and new emotes were added - you would just see people typing the text. Your chat doesn't know to replace that text with the emote. The Vote UI doesn't have any emote parsing (edited)
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theorypleeb 10-May-20 06:37 AM
oooh ok
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theorypleeb 14-May-20 02:50 PM
I just switched it from Twitch to YT and wanted to double check to make sure auto scrape is right.
That was the default. I'm only second guessing it because "YouTube API" is an option and I'm not sure what the difference is now that I switched it to YouTube.
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theorypleeb 14-May-20 10:39 PM
I was streaming for like 10 minutes before someone was like "It's not working on the site."
I switched to Twitch temporarily, which worked.
Maybe my YT ID wasn't right, but I copied it directly from my YT's advanced settings
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WhiteNervosa 15-May-20 11:51 AM
I'll have to take a look if the scraper is its newest version on your site. Its going to get recoded, but is after the upcoming update. The round-about solution is hosting the youtube stream.
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theorypleeb 16-May-20 06:45 PM
So if it is "hosted" are the rest of the functions from the user and creator experience the same as if it was working how it seemed to before?
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WhiteNervosa 16-May-20 06:47 PM
Yes - it just says hosting at the top of the site instead of live PepoThink
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theorypleeb 16-May-20 06:47 PM
ok cool I think I'll try that today
does the link for hosting have to be for the video itself or just the YT channel?
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WhiteNervosa 16-May-20 06:50 PM
The video itself
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theorypleeb 16-May-20 06:50 PM
ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 17-May-20 06:38 AM
The scraper wasn't turned on for your box. It is now active and hopefully will be able to scrape when you're live and viewer count from YouTube. The Emote update will go live on V.GG today or tomorrow and after its stable will be deployed to the other boxes. https://streamable.com/68u9ll (edited)
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theorypleeb 17-May-20 06:40 PM
You're a fucking hero
thanks
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theorypleeb 20-May-20 01:56 AM
trying again but it doesn't seem to work
that is my channel id and i am live though
just switched to twitch for the time being though
unless you had a quick fix
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WhiteNervosa 20-May-20 01:58 AM
You aren't live on YouTube
If you are, its unlisted. The scraper looks at this page: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5dMDMT8K1_X8TV1J7ALIxg/videos?view=2&flow=grid
"Theory pleeb" is a working class theory nerd. They produce video, blog, and podcast content about philosophy and critical theory. Mostly videos though. This...
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WhiteNervosa 20-May-20 01:59 AM
unlisted
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theorypleeb 20-May-20 01:59 AM
oooh
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thanks
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WhiteNervosa 20-May-20 02:00 AM
ye.
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theorypleeb 21-May-20 11:57 AM
just curious
it shows I have viewers right now but I'm not live
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WhiteNervosa 21-May-20 11:57 AM
Okay
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theorypleeb 21-May-20 11:57 AM
Are they all watching the last video?
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WhiteNervosa 21-May-20 11:58 AM
I did not mean to send that okay thanks mobile
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theorypleeb 21-May-20 11:58 AM
oh gotcha
just lemme know if you know
I just don't know what they're viewing
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WhiteNervosa 21-May-20 01:40 PM
If you aren't live - nothing, it didn't register you going offline properly and should be reset via the reset button in the admin dashboard
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WhiteNervosa 22-May-20 03:34 PM
It was delayed but when planning to support GIF emotes it required restructuring things so it wouldn't be destructive (updates wouldn't make you add all your emotes again), but if all is smooth should go live for stability testing Sunday https://streamable.com/h6inbm PepoComfy
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theorypleeb 22-May-20 07:21 PM
awesome
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theorypleeb 23-May-20 12:42 AM
How do I view the list of subscribers in different tiers?
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theorypleeb 26-May-20 07:12 PM
hmmm this isn't working on the site today
this worked last time
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WhiteNervosa 26-May-20 07:13 PM
lemmie look
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theorypleeb 26-May-20 07:13 PM
it shows that it's public
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WhiteNervosa 26-May-20 07:13 PM
Yeah its set up correctly on your end
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theorypleeb 26-May-20 07:13 PM
ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 26-May-20 07:13 PM
Oh it did just update
How long ago did you go live?
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theorypleeb 26-May-20 07:14 PM
like a few minutes ago
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WhiteNervosa 26-May-20 07:15 PM
Oh, yeah sometimes it takes a few minutes, I'd recommend a starting soon VOD so it can get the URL and your site will say SOON and then when you start it will probably say soon for a few minutes but will still show the VOD and just switch to showing viewers when its caught the stream
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theorypleeb 26-May-20 07:16 PM
oh ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 26-May-20 07:16 PM
The update appears stable and has been deployed on xanderhal.com , too, as Vaush didn't really use it so it wasn't a good test. There were some issues but they seem to have been ironed out and Xanderhal's is working well, so I'll push it to yours soon. Right now, its just emotes, but after the initial update it doesn't have to be tailored to each site which makes it a lot easier to update the sites and after this version they'll be able to update themselves (or rather the admin will be able to update them) with a press of a button peepoHappy
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So let me know when you're done streaming and I'll prep your site and get the site updated to this version, at least. Sorry for the sites issues, thanks for being patient. Its taken awhile but its just starting to become a CMS with this update, albeit the initial update takes around 30 minutes to finish but after its quick and easy to update a site and then the next update will make it so they can update themselves without needing tailored updates.
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theorypleeb 31-May-20 05:35 AM
Hey just curious if you're able to make it so subscribers on my site get access to a special playlist?
It will be a playlist of unlisted streams and assisted readings
OMG I can't wait to personally update the motes 😄
No worries, I'm about to take a one month internet break anyway.
Sorry this is so many things, but as a fourth inquiry: What should I tell other streamers who wanna do what I'm doing? Do you want/need or do you not want/not need new people? Trekkie69 reached out to me and asked.
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WhiteNervosa 31-May-20 09:13 PM
The more people who use it that are happy with it, the better. So don't ever feel like you have to shell for it, you can be frank, its got a lot of limitations but has potential. I'm going to update your site and hopefully some of that shines through peepoHappy So, to explain better what that nonsense was supposed to translate to - I want more people using it who would be happy using it, most people think they'd be happy with its limits but quickly lose interest. I think you're a good gauge of that, so you'd be good to tell people what you want to see and what it currently offers, and if they'd still be happy with that then awesome. I hope with this update and the ones after, it won't be focused on the limits. (edited)
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WhiteNervosa 31-May-20 10:53 PM
There is a new button in the admin menu on the left side that is a leaf, that is where you can add emotes and change/add icons in chat etc. peepoHappy
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theorypleeb 01-Jun-20 12:08 AM
omg yaaaay
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theorypleeb 02-Jun-20 08:44 PM
hmmmm the video isn't coming up
my live YT
been live for at least 7 minutes
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WhiteNervosa 02-Jun-20 08:45 PM
Hmm, lemmie check it, that is weird
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theorypleeb 02-Jun-20 08:45 PM
figured it out
sorry
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WhiteNervosa 02-Jun-20 08:46 PM
Oh, that is okay, the site is obtuse in its current form - but I hope the new UI shows where its going to be less. . .obtuse and easier to use
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theorypleeb 02-Jun-20 09:09 PM
honestly it was my fault because it had to do with restream, not the site
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WhiteNervosa 02-Jun-20 09:10 PM
Ah, that is good, well not that it was your fault but that the scraper is working. It will be recoded but I was hoping it could be still farther down the priority list because it seems to be stable.
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theorypleeb 12-Aug-20 02:45 AM
hey WN
Hope you're doing well
I've been on sabbatical writing my book
But I'm going to post an excerpt of a reading to my YT, and would like to post a link to my website, to a page with the reading's words.
I was thinking of making a 6 page excerpt PDF, then putting that PDF on a page on my site
I would just love so much if there was a URL like "theorypleeb.com/readings/TLSDpgs286-291" to direct people to thePDF excerpt
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theorypleeb 23-Aug-20 11:10 PM
hey WN
I'm about to do a little departure stream for a while because I'm moving again, and I'm trying to test the chat but it won't come up on screen on OBS. Just curious if there's a kind of reset required?
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WhiteNervosa 23-Aug-20 11:16 PM
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theorypleeb 23-Aug-20 11:18 PM
I've been on sabbatical writing my book so I haven't even played with the emotes yet. I can't wait to finish moving so I can finally see what you've got going on~
Thanks, that url works perfect
Now to see if this YouTube auto scrape is up to date
Is it that one?
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WhiteNervosa 23-Aug-20 11:24 PM
That or force the YouTube URL of the video
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theorypleeb 23-Aug-20 11:24 PM
I can put it there right?
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WhiteNervosa 23-Aug-20 11:28 PM
Yes
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theorypleeb 23-Aug-20 11:28 PM
Thanks ❤️
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theorypleeb 22-Sep-20 01:50 PM
Ok I'm finally finished moving... again. Going to begin regular streaming on a weekly basis now that I'm getting a regular job schedule established.
What's the drag and drop emote situation? Good to go? I wanna start experimenting with it1
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theorypleeb 29-Sep-20 11:09 AM
reminder bump
The two reminders: Emotes, how to or how goes it? And what can I do to add a blog component to the site? If there's some Word Press thing we could plugin to it or something that would be dope
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WhiteNervosa 30-Sep-20 06:46 PM
Sorry I have quite overslept; noting to touch base
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theorypleeb 05-Oct-20 10:54 AM
Ok cool
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WhiteNervosa 05-Oct-20 08:50 PM
From your site's admin menu, the leaf at the bottom left and then Chat -> Emotes As for the blog component, it could link to a wordpress page but otherwise integration is definitely far away on the road map.
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theorypleeb 08-Nov-20 03:34 PM
Hey WN, someone donated money today ($50) and they said it charged them three times. Apparently it kept bouncing back from Paypal or something, idk. Anyway, I go to my paypal and see nothing. Nothing for the last two times someone subscribed either. I'm worried all that money just disappeared.
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WhiteNervosa 08-Nov-20 03:37 PM
No money can disappear - do you still have your PayPal SDK info?
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theorypleeb 08-Nov-20 03:38 PM
I don't remember what that is but I can find out
that's relieving to hear
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WhiteNervosa 08-Nov-20 03:39 PM
[Snipped because you already have it - we are just double checking . . .] Then you go here: https://www.paypal.com/businessmanage/account/accountAccess At the bottom, click on NVP/SOAP API integration (Classic) Manage API Credentials. Then click on Signature and once you have the API Username, API Password, and Signature save those in a notepad file and you're done with PayPal shit. At the end you should have: - Your PayPal email or the PayPal email address you want money to go to, if I was going to send you money I would send it to this email - The Paypal API Username - The Paypal API Password (not your PayPal password) - The Paypal API Signature
Transfer money online in seconds with PayPal money transfer. All you need is an email address.
If you didn't get the money, either A wires are crossed and we can see where it went or B (more likely) it was a PayPal issue and the money was sent into the PayPal void and they will be refunded in time. But, first we must double check the info and see if either of those is the case
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theorypleeb 08-Nov-20 03:42 PM
I think that's it